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To ask how much you earn

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ezeria · 12/11/2018 12:20

How much do you earn per anum before tax? What is your current position/job/career? Do you enjoy it?

OP posts:
guzzlepuzzle · 17/11/2018 07:45

24k teaching in a prison. Love my job love my team hate the politics of too many chiefs in senior management.

whinetime89 · 17/11/2018 08:19

Speech pathologist, self employed approx $1400 a week working 2 days ( Australia)

allwalkedout · 17/11/2018 08:29

@bbcessex, spot on!! More high earning women should share their success and show others that it’s possible.

Xenia · 17/11/2018 10:18

I agree. It is useful for other women to see what some women do and what they can earn. Obviously if you like football you are not likely to be another David Beckham and there will be some jobs where only a very few people earn a lot but the themes on here ring true to me. E.g. someone going freelance and then earning a lot which is similar to me. I was on £59k in my last employed job but earned more working for mjyself although that is risky and I can see reading my old diary this week all the pros and cons going through my head before I decided to try it. I was also bringing in about 6 times my salary to the firm than I was paid so I am sure I was worth that £59k (which is about £120k in today's money).

BruegeITheElder · 17/11/2018 10:37

So it's all a noble effort to show women how much they can earn and encourage them?

The downside is that according to this thread, about 50% of women earn over 70k a year (it's actually more like 4% in the real world), which is going to give people unrealistic expectations.

There is a thread in trending right now in fact titled "34 on 42k a year and feel poor".

9ofpentangles · 17/11/2018 10:39

But should we measure success and happiness by our pay packets?

RingtheBells · 17/11/2018 11:01

How do we know it is women posting, thread just says how much do you earn, there could be some men posting Most likely to be mainly women but we don’t know for sure

bbcessex · 17/11/2018 11:18

Bruegel - I think you’re being selective in what you’re seeing.

From my perspective, there is a real mix on here. Plus your have to factor in the demographic of the MN user base - your responses will always be skewed dependant on who your asking the question to.

No one, as far as I can see, has stated that the attainment of money should be their life’s goal.
The question was ‘how much do you earn’, and the answers have been given.

I absolutely love my job. Its specialist, I get well paid for it and I bring in a lot of money for my firm.

My best friend is does a similar level role in the charity sector and gets paid around a third of what I do... that’s her choice, she knows she could make more in the private sector but doesn’t want to move.

There will always be salary disparity. It’s about supply & demand. Virtually no job is paid according to your benefit to society.

insideoutsider · 18/11/2018 11:07

I have not read the full thread.. But wow! I've been pursuing the wrong path!
If you are real, @IAmNotLikeThem I'll do all your admin and create all fun on the job - Hire me! 👌😁

Bishalisha · 18/11/2018 11:15

Well even if this thread is full of trolls, it has motivated me to get my text books out and get cracking with my next exam Smile

Xenia · 18/11/2018 13:12

I certainly don't fel I am involved in some noble effort although i do think some women have noidea how muych women can earn and had their parents helped them understand what different choices they are as teenagers the whole of their life could have been made a lot easier and since about 1983 when I began writing articles and going on the news sometimes about women and work I have had at least some kind of aim of trying to ensure higher pay to women and giving them information about what women can and do earn and how to get there. I do see that as having been useful to some women including that you can work full time whilst you have a small baby or toddler - that life is not a choice for women (or men) of have a baby or work full time.

LadyPasserine · 18/11/2018 14:37

Nationally there are 314,000 individuals in the UK who in 2016/17 earned more than £150,000 per annum which is 1 for every 82 adults. By region to nearest thousand heads;

North-East : 1 in 285
North-West: 1 in 190
Yorkshire & Humber: 1 in 199
East Midlands: 1 in 182
West Midlands: 1 in 181
East of England: 1 in 79
London: 1 in 34
South-East: 1 in 59
South-West: 1 in 158
Wales: 1 in 335
Scotland: 1 in 144
Northern Ireland: 1 in 241

These figures include pensioners, those not working on private income eg buy-to-let landlords, basically everyone.

bbcessex · 18/11/2018 15:31

Lady Pattiserie.. that’s not correct.. if I recall, the 364,000 relates to who pays top rate tax (45p in the pound).

Most of those who earn ‘around’ the £150k mark keep actual ‘earnings’ under the 150k by paying additional contributions into pensions, which is then taken off their earnings. So if you are paid a salary of £180k, you contribute £30k or more into your pension & you come under the £150k threshold.

I my bonus year is good, I would pay top rate tax on an element of it, but I don’t because I contribute a substantial amount to my pension.

DistanceCall · 18/11/2018 17:02

according to this thread, about 50% of women earn over 70k a year (it's actually more like 4% in the real world), which is going to give people unrealistic expectations.

Don't think half the posters are claiming to earn over 70k. I would say most are in the 20k to 50k range.

BruegeITheElder · 18/11/2018 17:08

Don't think half the posters are claiming to earn over 70k. I would say most are in the 20k to 50k range.

Do you fancy going through and counting them all? I don't!

DistanceCall · 18/11/2018 17:17

Nor do I! But my overall impression was that.

AiryFairyUnicornRainbow · 18/11/2018 17:27

£50k - Hooker

Fleurdalys · 18/11/2018 17:28

£10.28 an hour.
Higher level teaching assistant working in a class of 5 with fantastic, individual challenging young people with autism/global development delay.
5 students 3 staff.
Love it.
But I certainly know when I've done my 40+ week.

OKhitmewithit · 18/11/2018 17:54

Most of those who earn ‘around’ the £150k mark keep actual ‘earnings’ under the 150k by paying additional contributions into pensions, which is then taken off their earnings. So if you are paid a salary of £180k, you contribute £30k or more into your pension & you come under the £150k threshold

Except if you earned £180k you wouldn’t be able to pay £30k into a pension as anyone earning over £150k loses some of their pension allowance. If you earn 180k you can only put £25k in a pension. This is assuming no other benefits (or you lose more).

Hubanmao · 18/11/2018 17:55

Interesting thread. I agree that it’s important for women not to put a ceiling on what they think they’re worth. Xenia- where does that self belief come from which enabled you to overcome obstacles and achieve what you have? I’m fascinated by what motivates people

Xenia · 18/11/2018 18:25

I was thnking about that issue when I read/scanned my diaries actuallya I know the end of the story but I didn't when I was writing them. So the applications to 140 firms and 24 failed interviews as a student- I just plugged away at it. I was the best in the school with the best exam results and then the top fo year 1 at univesrity and had prizes etc so i suppose the self belief just came from external evidence that I was better than most people at a lot of things, 4 grade 8s etc. I obviously wasn't very good at interviews in the early 80s however!

I just fel the more things I tried surely one would work I suppose I am litke Robert the Bruce watching that spider - fiat first you don't succeed you just keep trying and trying. Sophie's Wedding services - didn't sell a single product, the buy to lose flats - massive losses, some business thing I advertised - a kind of report - not a single sale. FT book/report I wrote - took nearly a year could have made £30k (so they said) made about the £%600 advance, ditto the other books in 91 - 13. (I haven't got beyond 93). In 93 I know I won't be made a partner at the firm I am at so there are lots of entries about how I might set on my own or whether I should, could I afford a fax machine at home, could I work from the house (not much space), could I afford to buy a dictating machine, could i afford to repalce the amstrad PCW with a personal computer, should we get some kind of "modem".

I am also lucky that I have never been seriously ill or mentally ill (although I certainly was catching cold after cold frmo the children and head lice time after time in 1993 - it was head lice central in our house)...

Bishalisha · 18/11/2018 19:32

I certainly don't fel I am involved in some noble effort although i do think some women have noidea how muych women can earn and had their parents helped them understand what different choices they are as teenagers the whole of their life could have been made a lot easier

Career advise at my school was completely dire. Ditto my parents advice- I could be a hairdresser, a beautician, or work in a supermarket 🤦🏻‍♀️

bbcessex · 18/11/2018 19:52

OKhitmewithit

Are you a financial advisor?

LadyPasserine · 18/11/2018 22:24

bbcessex those figures are HMRC's. And what OKhitme says is correct, the Annual Allowance drops on a £2:£1 basis where income before reliefs exceeds £150,000 to a maximum of £210,000. Therefore at £210,000 or above gross income the minimum of £10,000 is achieved.

herethereandeverywhere · 18/11/2018 22:33

My career's adviser advised me not to be a solicitor (one of my expressed interests) as my family weren't wealthy enough to pay me through law school (honestly - I still have the advice sheet in my parents house somewhere, I must find it.)
........ so I did it any way!
Once at Uni studying law I found that law firms would pay for your law school if you got a job with them. Most firms offering this were the big commercial ones in London - so that's what I did, and never looked back.

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