Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

I couldn't have children, do you think she might sell me one?

Perhaps a three year old, past the terrible two's but developing a personality and less likely to be missed I reckon.

..and to those saying they’re doing the country a favour by producing tax payers, I think you’re wrong.

A household with 2 kids needs to be bringing in around £40k to be a net contributor. I’m sorry but the fact that none of the children get any attention makes me think they’re unlikely to excel at school. I don’t see a lot of potential net contributors almongst this family.

I find them odd to say the least. I watched a YouTube video of Sue doing a 20 minute tour of the house recently because "fans" had been asking to see it. She lives her live through SM and imo can't function without the attention. Hence why the need to keep producing.

They are just like the Duggars. Like to pretend that they older kids just love to look after them, but in reality, they dont listen to them.

The older Radford kids said they didnt want more siblings, but they're still popping them out.

God forbid it they had a child with complex needs there are a lot of people in the house to help. It isn't a case of 2 parents and 20 something dc. In the last show one of the young girls (looked around 10) said she did a lot of nappies. They have been raised helping their siblings, so it is second nature to them.

I wouldn't be surprised if another 5 come along (assuming she doesn't die first from pregnancy/birth complications)

The last time I saw them on tv it was him I was worried about. He looked red,sweaty, puffy, and exhausted. It woukdbt have shrprised me to hear he had collapsed or
Had a heart attack. I think the life style and set up is not sustainable.

If the bakery folds they r fucked. He will struggle to get another job where he can up and leave every morning because they can't even manage the school run on their own.

The Duggars are revolting because they mix evangelicism into the mix.

Hmmm that sentence didn't come out right!

I see your point TheFairyCaravanbut I think to find it disgusting is a bit extreme. Tbh I think a lot of people who claim CB, WTC judge those who get council houses & don’t work. I think it’s unfair that my parents got the equivalent to CB even though my dad was a banker as it wasn’t means tested then. I think it’s unfair that i’m unlikely to get a state pension but my mum has her free bus pass & is on holiday each month but hey ho.

I can understand it and there must be a reason for this obsession
I have 5 and was warned (and sterilised) after number 4 about the dangers of having more but it absolutely was an obsession. Mine was due to a traumatic loss and I do think perhaps this family have something that is driving them to keep on going aside from any financial incentives
There will be risks but she’s had normal deliveries hasn’t she? I think doctors are more blunt about the dangers when you’ve had multiple c sections ?
Anyway I wish them well but if I knew then I’d gently raise the subject of some counselling

They are just like the Duggars didn’t they cover up that one of the sons was sexually abusing the daughters, bit of an unfair comparison.

Those 21 kids who are such a "drain on the system" will grow up to be 21 taxpayers who contribute to it.

On a personal level I feel sorry for the older kids who will no doubt pick up the slack looking after the younger ones. And I'm shocked at how young she was when she started, and sad for her that she didn't have the confidence or imagination to do something else with her life. But there are far worse things happening to children every day in smaller hidden families and I reserve my anger and upset for that.

I’m sorry but the fact that none of the children get any attention makes me think they’re unlikely to excel at school. I don’t see a lot of potential net contributors almongst this family. I think that is so harsh & you can’t possible know that.

She's filling a hole somewhere within her. She craves the attention of feeling important and special when pregnant and when the baby is tiny, once they are past the baby stage she's on to the next because that baby can't give her what she needs.

Similar to the Duggars in the sense that they claim that the dc love having lots of siblings. That's where it ends.

They the same in their selfishness and neglect of their children's emotional needs.

The Duggars are just worse in regards to their covering up of the Oldest sons crimes.

But there are far worse things happening to children every day in smaller hidden families and I reserve my anger and upset for that.

Exactly.

Psychologists could write a 2,000 page epic book about this pair of parents.

I also don't buy the "paying for it all themselves" line - OK so the dad isn't unemployed, but that's not the same thing. She has never worked (as she's been popping out babies every year since her teens) and all that child benefit and tax credits must run into hundreds of thousands.

I really don't see why this family is held up as something to aspire to. Just grim.

I had my last at 43, and the consultants were awful, very concerned at the risks at my increased age and the number of previous pregnancies. It frightened me as my children need a mother far more than a new sibling (baby wasn’t planned) and I developed complications after which I’d not had before and were very stressful and unpleasant and then the baby had some issues and returns to hospital. It’s very difficult for the rest of the family and I know my older children were scared. I could not keep doing that to them. They have exams etc. On top of that there’s the visiting secondary schools, colleges then support choosing future education, visiting universities etc how can you do that with so many?

Sinisterbumface, you don't know that all the children will be taxpayers in the future. What if the girls decide to be as selfish as their mother and churn out baby after baby? How much tax do you reckon the mum has paid? Has she ever worked?

I think it's a fair point to say that generally speaking children in macro families have less chance of academic achievement. So far one reached university (but dropped out to come home and help She whilst pregnant) but there were 4 dc at one point working in the bakery.

Those 21 kids who are such a "drain on the system" will grow up to be 21 taxpayers who contribute to it

We really don't know that. Could be completely the opposite to that scenario

I don't agree with all this criticism. Most parents don't choose a larger family but smoe do and do very well with it. I have 5 and you find the older ones help with the younger ones and get a lot of benefit from that and the older ones are leaving home when younger ones are coming so the household itself is never quite as big as people assume.

I think the 21 includes the baby which died so she probably now has 20 children alive but we never forget the dead ones including my dead baby sister - never to be forgotten.

SinisterBumFacedCat

Those 21 kids who are such a "drain on the system" will grow up to be 21 taxpayers who contribute to it.

How do you come to that conclusion? They could also be minimum wage workers or have no jobs at all...I know which one seems more likely because they would all have needed good education and parent encouragement at home to do homework. If their kids were struggling academically could they afford private tutoring? Somehow I think not ergo lower levels of education =lower paid jobs = little tax or no tax paid. Then all those kids have children...see how it goes on an on?

I think the girls in that family are more likely not to want to have children at all than to do what their mother did.