To think this comment is racist

[Jackfruitburger]

Speculating on a black family on a tv show, someone said 'I just want to know where they've got their money from, the dad doesn't look like he does a job that pays really well.' He was a black man, relaxing in his garden, with a baseball cap on.
This is modern racism, it's not name calling, it's not signs on boarding house windows. It's not even a conscious thing for many people, I honestly don't believe that the woman who said this really even thought about her ludicrous idea of 'what wealth looks like.'
God the world is depressing sometimes.

This sounds more like prejudice than out right racism.

And it doesn't sound like the person who said it gave any indication that race was a part of their preconceived opinion - it could be the dress sense and apply to a white family for example. But yes the person could have a racial view behind their prejudice (i.e. a belief that black people are dishonest or criminals).

Racism is insidious and still very much exists today, however, are you sure this was race related? Would they have said the same thing if the person was white?

It's unconscious racism at best. And trying to call it anything else is part of what is perpetuating racism in our society.

How is that possibly racist? I'd think the same about a white man lounging around wearing a baseball cap.

It reminds me of someone my DH worked with years ago.
Every time this man saw a black man driving in a really nice and expensive make car, (in London, so loads of times) he was adamant the black guy bought it with illegal dealings, or that he stole it, drug money - you name it. Loved the N word. He was an odious little man, very pro Eng-ga-laaand, Stella drinking red faced individual. (And yet to those who didn't see that side of him, he was just a regular, nice, smiley, long time married grandfather who worked for BT).

It reminds me of someone my DH worked with years ago. Every time this man saw a black man driving in a really nice and expensive make car, (in London, so loads of times) he was adamant the black guy bought it with illegal dealings, or that he stole it, drug money - you name it.

Was he a policeman ?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/a-car-full-black-guys-9596451

How is that possibly racist? I'd think the same about a white man lounging around wearing a baseball cap

But would you have a problem if a man, of any race, was wearing a different hat? A bowler or perhaps a fedora? If it is the cap you have the issue with then would that make you a millinist?

I dont know, it depends on so much. I have seen plenty a white man in a cap and thought the same. Did she mean it because he was black, or because he was lounging about wearing a cap?

Jackfruitburger I think the fact you instantly assumed the comment was made because the guy was black says a lot about you!

Maybe it’s you making it racist and she was commenting on dad wearing a cap and relaxing rather than being at work.

What was the programme? Much more context needed OP!

How is that possibly racist? I'd think the same about a white man lounging around wearing a baseball cap.
This ^^ And I'd think more if he was white!
A flat cap would be different.

Tbh I think it’s basically is racist. People say they would think the same of a white man but it’s not really true is it? They’d only think that of a white man they had reason to believe didnt have a source of wealth.

I don't think it's racist at all. If I see a person of any colour or any gender lounging around in their garden with a baseball cap on, I wouldnt think they are in a high paid job. Why does everything have to be brought back around to racism? Although prejudice isn't nice, it happened naturally. Everyone gets an opinion of someone based on rumors, the look of people etc. Just because this man is black does not mean that's the only factor (if it was even a factor) which lead the woman to assume he wasn't in a high paid job.

Let me get this right- you’d see a white man in a cap, lounging in this huge garden in the grounds of his huge house and you’d think he didn’t look as though he had a good enough job to pay for it?

Why wouldn’t you just assume he’s a rich man in a baseball cap?

People have said it for years that Carrie from SATC wouldn't have been able to afford her apartment and all of her clothes. In Friends Joey was an out of work actor, Chandler worked in a cube, Rachel was a waitress and Monica worked in a restaurant but lived in massive apartments.

They’re not real people though slash 🤣

How is that possibly racist? I'd think the same about a white man lounging around wearing a baseball cap.

^Me too. The only one making it racist is the OP

How can you be sure it's not a prejudice against baseball caps?

Why does everything have to be brought back around to racism? Although prejudice isn't nice, it happened naturally. Everyone gets an opinion of someone based on rumors, the look of people etc.

Let's unpick this. Prejudice 'happened naturally'? Because of 'rumours' and 'the look of people'? Who's this 'everyone' who bases their 'natural' prejudice on rumour and people's appearance?

In fact, I'm going to charitably assume you're being sarcastic.

They’re not real people though slash

Is it a reality show the OP is talking about?

I don’t know tbf. But assume the idea is the prejudice applies to real people ie black people aren’t wealthy

It sounds prejudice to me. Her comment probably had less to do with the baseball cap and more to do with his skin colour. She would not have made such comments if they were a white family. Welcome to brexit England

We live in an area that on face value we should not be able to afford. Good paid jobs and cheap property in our 20s and 30s meant we could afford way beyond our salaries now. I often get asked (or it’s implied) how we can afford where we live. Have been asked a few times about lottery win or inheritance. Very much a class thing which I can only imagine would be a double whammy if black.

What tv show was it?

I sometimes watch those show like 'homes in the sun' or 'homes in the country' and I am constantly amazed at how much money both white and black people have to buy a second home.

Most people I know are struggling to buy their first home and yet seemingly ordinary people seem to have a budget of say £650k for a new home. Is that what she meant?