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To have lost it with FIL?

118 replies

FrangelicoCandyBoughs · 04/11/2018 21:03

I feel like a backstory is definitely needed in order to tell whether I have BU or not.
FIL and I have never really got on, me and DH met at 15 and I’ve always sensed that he thinks I’ve ruined his sons life. I’ve always got a vibe that he wishes I wasn’t with him when we’re together, when I first met FIL he’d always do little sly things such as not buying my a drink but buying everyone else one or making jokes about me breaking up with DH. He never made me feel welcome, never made conversation with me or anything. Me and DH married young and FIL always disapproved, said we were wasting our life etc. When I gave birth to our eldest DC, FIL told DH that he was very happy he had a grandchild he just wished it wasn’t by me. DH told him that it didn’t matter, he loved me and he wouldn’t have him talk about me like that.
Over our relationship (11 years in February) FIL has made me feel like an outcast, I always feel on edge around him and would much rather be home. I’m quite an emotional person and am always close to tears around him, I just feel very uncomfortable.

We now barely see FIL, we live miles away and only see him on holidays or at family events. He’s very weird around my children, I don’t see any love towards them. He jokes about them being girly, when really they’re just normal little boys. He criticises how me and DH raise them (but only blames me) and says we’re not being harsh enough. I’m very firm with our boys when I need to be, but I don’t believe in shouting or hitting, so if they ever play up around FIL I’ll usually just take them away from the situation and explain what they’ve done wrong. Our DC aren’t badly behaved at all, they’re very polite but of course they’re children and will push boundaries. Anytime they do this in front of FIL he will shout at them and say things like ‘obey your father’. Every time we’re with him it usually ends with us leaving early to get DC away from him.

I’m pregnant again and due Christmas Eve but am having an elected C-Section so will most likely have DC around the 17th. We have 3 other children aged 6 and 4 year old twins. I really want a relaxed family Christmas, just me, DH and the kids. I will still be recovering from a C-section!. FIL called up a week ago and asked us to come down from the 23rd until Boxing Day. DH said no, we will have newborn and we won’t be travelling nearly 3 hours (that’s without stops) to visit you. He also mentioned my c-section. FIL then said ‘it’s her 3rd one, she’ll know how to recover!.’ He then made a joke about me not being woman enough to give birth naturally. It really upsets me but I do suffer with anxiety, depression and PTSD, on top of that I have a tilted cervix so giving birth naturally is possible but would be quite complicated and I don’t want to risk it. DH told him that it wasn’t an option and hung up.
Tonight FIL called and asked if he could drive up to us for Christmas as driving seemed to be the main issue, he said he’d stay in a hotel if we payed as he has no problem sleeping on our sofa but knows I wouldn’t want it. I told him no, I really don’t feel up to entertaining this year, it’ll be stressful enough introducing a new baby to our family and recovering from birth so I want a quiet Christmas with family. He then told me that it was a classic case of being being a jealous bitch and not wanting DH to see his family.
I lost it unfortunately and told him that I’ve loved his son for 11 years and want him to be happy, I have no problem with DH seeing his family and we see them as often as possible. I told him I was fed up of being pushed out and hated by him purely because he doesn’t think I’ve allowed his son a life, and if his idea of a life is drugs, drink and sleeping around then he should be glad DH didn’t do that. He ended the call after calling me a pathetic c**t.

Now I feel really bad for losing it. I know it’s going to cause trouble for DH and I didn’t want that for him. I can’t stop thinking maybe I am just jealous and want DH to myself but logically I know that isn’t true. MIL (who is separated from FIL) has called after SIL told her about it and has been nothing but lovely and said she knows I’m not jealous etc. But I know it’s going to be spread around the family and DH already feels like a black sheep anyway. So my question is WIBU and how do I fix this?.

OP posts:
justilou1 · 04/11/2018 21:27

FIL is a total arsehole and this has been a long time coming. It's been too long, really.

Dollymixture22 · 04/11/2018 21:27

You are 100% in the right. The end.

FrangelicoCandyBoughs · 04/11/2018 21:28

Gosh there’s so many replies!. DH is out at the minute at the shops and was when I got the call so he doesn’t know about this yet and I will update you when he gets back.

First of all thank you all, it’s nice to know I’m not an over emotional pregnant woman who needs to get a grip!.

DH has a sister @Evil

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TemptressofWaikiki · 04/11/2018 21:29

I'd go totally NC after this final disgusting insult and bullying. Enough is enough and you need to focus on your own health and family. There is probably a very good reason why MIL isn't with this bully.

HollowTalk · 04/11/2018 21:30

He's absolutely disgusting. I wouldn't set eyes on him again.

Gemini69 · 04/11/2018 21:30

Sounds like the ideal solution just occurred OP... do nothing and relax.... I hope you have a wonderful C-section birth and a festive bonus that FIL won't be around...to manipulate things... win/win Flowers

LuluJakey1 · 04/11/2018 21:31

Your DH needs to step up and tell him to fuck off and that be an end to the relationship with him. He sounds like an abusive, controlling git and shouldn't be anywhere near you or your children. DH needs to put you first.

FrangelicoCandyBoughs · 04/11/2018 21:32

DH and his dad didn’t see eachother for a couple of years after MIL and FIL broke up due to his behaviour and it’s always affected DH so I think that’s why he tried to keep the peace. He’s just come home now so I’m going to explain it all to him and see his view. I know we should go NC with him and I’m sure DH will want to but I feel like should say sorry to him, which I know is stupid of me!

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DML13 · 04/11/2018 21:32

This is not your issue ''to fix''. Sounds like it is well known in the family what FIL is like and he is a grown man that cannot see he is the problem and so he can't ever be fixed. Anybody visiting a family with a newborn over Christmas would be duly cautious about imposing themselves, but he somehow fails the see the issue. You have been a remarkable lady in maintaining integrity and calm over the last 11 years going by your back story. Time to cut this person from your life as you don't need this hassles and stress.

7yo7yo · 04/11/2018 21:33

What a twat!
Tell him to piss of and never see him again.
Tell DH he can see him but he can’t see the kids. It can’t be good for them to hear you being put down or having negative things said about themselves.

Twosmirkingducks · 04/11/2018 21:33

He called you a jealous bitch and a pathetic cunt. You don’t fix it OP. You draw a line in the sand and say anyone who treats you so awfully is not welcome in your house let alone just after you’ve given birth around Christmas time. What a horrible horrible man he sounds.

Longdistance · 04/11/2018 21:34

Tell him to fuck off!

Didntwanttochangemyname · 04/11/2018 21:35

He's awful! Please don't apologise to him!

Italiangreyhound · 04/11/2018 21:35

"He then told me that it was a classic case of being being a jealous bitch and not wanting DH to see his family."

Wow, what a vile man. I hope you told him where to go!

"I lost it unfortunately..."

No fortunately, good. Well done.

"He ended the call after calling me a pathetic c**t." Please do not see this man ever again. Your dh can see him, of course, but I would stay well clear. Does he know about the "anxiety, depression and PTSD"?

"Now I feel really bad for losing it." Please do not feel bad. He is an evil, horrible man. You are better off not seeing him. The apology should be from him, and even then I'd not want to speak to him again.

ChalkDoodler · 04/11/2018 21:36

If you say sorry this will be the green light he needs to keep doing this to you.

You need to go NC, just because you are related by marriage does not mean that he gets to treat you this way.

Would you stay friends with anyone who called you a jealous bitch and a cunt?

I wouldn't. Have a lovely Christmas, enjoy your family.

lynzpynz · 04/11/2018 21:36

You have the patience of a saint to endure him for 11 years! Im sure your DH knows what he is like as he stands up for you which is fab and exactly what a loving partner should do in the situations youve mentioned.

Id speak to DH, tell him exactly what happened and that you’re sorry for any agro it may cause him but you have had it up to here with FIL and you stood up for yourself and arent putting up with his gaslighting crap anymore! “He’ll stay in hotel if you pay” - what a chancer!

Do not feel bad about not letting him dictate whats happening, you have more than enough on your plate and this is not something you need to even let enter your head. Deep breath and dont think about it, focus on your lovely new arrival and loving supportive family.

Blood may be thicker than water... but so is sewage. Toxic family members are hell.

SerenDippitty · 04/11/2018 21:36

You’ve done nothing wrong, he’s a nasty bully and he had it coming.

Sinead100 · 04/11/2018 21:38

YANBU in the slightest and do not let ANYONE make you feel as though "pregnancy hormones" are making you behave a certain way. I'm not pregnant and my blood is boiling for you!

Italiangreyhound · 04/11/2018 21:39

"... I feel like should say sorry to him, which I know is stupid of me!"

PLEASE for the sake of your children fight the urge to mend fences with this man. He sounds horrible. He has affected your dh, please do not allow him to affect you kids.

Your husband can, of course, do as he pleases and some might argue that very low contact (a card or letter once a year or maybe a call etc) is better because then your husband will not perhaps feel like he has cut his dad out of his life.

If this continues I would really make it clear to your FIL that you are done with him, 11 years of shit is 11 years too many. XX Thanks

ThatssomebadhatHarry · 04/11/2018 21:41

There is nothing for you to fix.!

ASimpleLampoon · 04/11/2018 21:41

oh my goodness cut contact, if anyone deals with him, it can be your dh.

and as for the comment about natural childbirth - when he's able to push a watermelon through his peehole he gets to have an opinion..

JohnMcCainsDeathStare · 04/11/2018 21:41

You didn't lose it, you found it. And your children will know that you should not allow unacceptable behaviour from family and friends.

Branleuse · 04/11/2018 21:42

I would never see him again, nor allow my children to see him anymore

Feefeetrixabelle · 04/11/2018 21:44

Keep this vile man out of yours and your precious children’s lives. You owe him nothing.

DreamsofJacaranda · 04/11/2018 21:45

Your FIL sounds vile. Truly a dreadful man. Who in their right mind could possibly think it would be ok to come to you for Christmas when you’ll be just one week post-caesarean and already coping with three young children in addition to a newborn?

In view of his treatment of you over the years and the name he called you I would cut all contact with him anyway. He should be deeply ashamed of himself and make a grovelling apology. It sounds unlikely that he will apologise, so you’ll be perfectly justified to avoid him from now on.