Delivery driver just had a dump at my house!

[WitsEnd2018]

AIBU? I've just had some furniture delivered and the first thing the guy said was, 'Can I use your loo?' I didn't want him to but felt that I couldn't refuse so I reluctantly said yes. He was in there for ages. He's had a smelly dump. It fucking stinks. I could have cried. He then bought the furniture in and I've just had to go and clean the toilet. I'm disgusted.

Loobrushes to which post were you replying?

I belong to the Tolkien Society. We meet in each other's houses. Alcohol is usually consumed. Even one bottle of beer will make me need a shit. It's a biological fact, there's nothing I can do about it. I didn't realise that either drinking at social events or needing a shit whilst visiting someone's house denoted lack of class.

If you're referring to my other post, I was making a grammatical point.

Oh and Alaaya It's not that unusual really not to poo at work! I wouldn't say I have bowels of steel, but I can definitely wait to defecate. I only go at home (unless I'm on holiday!).

I don't regularly poo outside my home, because I don't feel comfortable. But when bowels move, they move. It can be uncomfortable or painful to supress it. Forcing your body to retain poo is incredibly unhealthy.

I do not think OP's level of upset is proportionate. Fine, ppst on MN, but I'm horrified at the idea of complaining to the company, or OP having to be out of the house as this 'incident' was too distressing.

You can use paper if it's above the water line, but if it's below you'd be dipping your hand in faecal water?

And then you can wash your hands.....

So sticking your hand into water that has shit in it, then washing your hand is better than using a loo brush and keeping a distance between you and the shitty end of the stick, then washing your hand?

Even thorough hand washing isn't 100%. It just seems sensible to not dip an ungloved hand into faecal toilet water.

I think this really does highlight the difference in the sexes (or is it genders? ) - Man needs a crap, sees a toilet and thinks 'aha, I can have a crap there'.

Women see the toilet as a fragrant sanctuary that has now been besmirched and fouled. The crapper is literally her 'nest' and now it's been dirtied by a 'stranger's' bowels.

Really, very odd.

Oh and I've always had a toilet brush and i've had 3 crawling children. None of them ever even touched it.

I don’t think people are proclaiming “their white sparkly toilet brushes”but just that there are ways of keeping a brush clean should you chose to use one. I personally think that you are able to see more clearly if the brush is dirty, on a white brush rather than a black bristle brush and the white goes with the decor in my bathroom. You are, like everyone, entitled to your opinion. Sadly, sometimes some people get a bit too involved with others comments and get very offended. We should just all remember to try to respond politely whether we agree or not on the same point. Of course if you are allowing builders/tradesmen to use your toilet constantly throughout the day then naturally it would need to be cleaned anyway at the end of the day,irrespective of whether they’ve used the toilet brush or bleach left in the toilet. Unfortunately, some people don’t think to use it and unfortunately not everyone has the same hygiene standards. What I’m saying is that if you chose to allow your toilet to be used by plenty of men working at your home then at least be prepared to clean it when they’ve all left for the day, unless you tell them to please not make a “mess” be it splashed water on the floor, I’m sure they’d get the message? Saying that, going back to when I knew we were having gardeners/workers eventually going to use our new cloakroom I made sure that the hand towels I provided over the 3 days was something that I didn’t mind being used (an older one) which I didn’t mind disposing of later. Not saying that the OP was meant to run up to her bathroom and make the toilet look like a dirty toilet before she let the man use it because she wasn’t to know what to expect.

My children never touched our toilet brush either.

Some children never touched a toilet brush... Therefore no child will ever touch a toilet brush?? #logicfail

Not necessarily, cressida. My kids didn't touch it because I didn't leave them alone in the bathroom.

It's not hard.

Not a logic fail, just pointing out that all the handwringing about crawling children was never an issue for them.

My bathrooms have doors which were kept closed so fiendish loo brush sucking kids couldn't get anywhere near my bleached brushes and if she was anywhere near a bog brush I was with her

@WitsEnd2018 Toilet brushes are rinsed, there is no poo particles on them. To be honest, I think you are absolutely disgusting for sticking your down a toilet bowl even with gloves. That is disgusting and unhygienic. Toilet brushes are there so you don't have to stick your hand in the bowl. That is their entire purpose. That is the point. I seriously think anyone who doesn't use a toilet brush has very low hygiene standards. I had never heard of anyone not using a toilet brush until this site. The lack of hygiene showed by you is disgusting.

I would say you need to boil wash your hands.

Crawling children don't touch the toilet brush if you keep the door shut.

That's actually gross.

Happened to me few months ago. Got my mattress delivered, guy asked to use the toilet. I said yes, he went for a pee and then didn't even flush the toilet!

I then had to assume he didn't wash his hands so had to Dettol wipe everything he possibly could have touched.

Was fuming...

@MotherofDinosaurs Toilet paper breaks up in water, so that wouldn't work. You sound disgusting if you are seriously suggesting someone put their hand in in the bowl. Absolutely disgusting.

Good luck to anyone working as a delivery driver and trying to find a public loo near my house. The only ones near me (bar pubs or cafes which would need you to buy something) are about a mile away. One is in the shopping centre so would need to go and park in a multi storey first. Plus if you didn't know the area you may not know this.

I work as a community nurse and sometimes need to use the loo at a patient's house. I wonder would this be acceptable for the OP given I'm a professional rather than someone who-dare I say it-comes from the 'working classes.'

Even thorough hand washing isn't 100%. It just seems sensible to not dip an ungloved hand into faecal toilet water

I don't think it's something you would make a habit of but if you had to you won't die. Thorough hand washing will be enough. I never wore rubber gloves to change messy nappies. I washed my hands afterwards.
Still here, didn't contract any deadly illness. Amazing isn't it?

I'm bemused by how this is turning into a class issue......It's nothing to do with with occupation / social class! It's to do with a person who was just meant to quickly drop off a piece of furniture in my home, staying for a stinky dump!

"and then you can wash your hands"

Who the hell would prefer to stick their hand in toilet water to wipe their shit marks away over having a toilet brush that's disgusting.

"Stinky dump"

Is there any other kind? Or do you and your family only shit out puffs of glitter and rose petals in your "fragrant sanctuary"?

If we’re making it a class issue, in my experience the “posher” the person the less likely they are to be mimsey about smells and shit and so on. Air fresheners and blue loo water and so on are real Hyacinth Bucket lower middle class things.

Well my children were toilet trained and able to use the bathroom alone certainly by 4 - I wouldn't be there helicoptering every time they went to the loo. They could easily have got hold of the loo brush, even if just in a misguided attempt to use it properly. Not something I'd risk.

I certainly don't advocate putting your hand into the toilet water though!! It's easy to wipe above water line, and anything below water flushes v easily,, possibly with the addition of bleach. I've never experienced these monumental skids that need to be "scrubbed" - but then I don't tend to have random delivery men shitting in my loo...

Whichever way you look at it, having a potentially shit-encrusted brush next to your loo is gross. And yes - it will get shit particles in it if people are using it to scrape around in fresh shit as and when (unless you are on 24/7 loo brush patrol).