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He’s the match; we’re the ammo. Only we can stop ourselves - Trump thread 86

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TheClaws · 30/10/2018 03:24

This is one of the most apt political cartoon I’ve seen.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3393501-Couldnt-think-of-a-pithy-quote-so-have-this-instead-Trump-85

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BolleauxtoBankers · 03/11/2018 19:48

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Scott Dworkin
‏Verified account @funder
4h4 hours ago

Another mass shooting. A college student & a doctor were killed. Five others were shot. In a yoga studio. In response, Andrew Gillum suspended his campaign. Even though Election Day is three days away. Putting people over politics. Florida deserves this kind of Governor. #VoteDem

cozietoesie · 03/11/2018 22:28

Thanks, lion.

TheClaws · 03/11/2018 22:45

North Korea wants everyone to know that they are still around and still happy to muck around with their nukes, if anyone cares right now.

Fox News

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TheClaws · 03/11/2018 22:49

More info about the NK statement:

www.apnews.com/0457b637e34e4e238ae04306a224207f

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cozietoesie · 03/11/2018 22:58

I wonder if they think nobody will notice?

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yolofish · 03/11/2018 23:27

I'm just a longtime lurker on these threads... but god, the 'normalisation' of this stuff is terrible. "barbed wire can be a beautiful sight..." just FUCK RIGHT OFF with that.

ColdNeverBotheredMeAnyway · 04/11/2018 00:06

Another long time lurker here, these threads are so informative, thank you

lionheart · 04/11/2018 03:00

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/trump-alt-right-twitter/574219/?utm_term=2018-10-29T10%3A00%3A41&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_campaign=the-atlantic

'An analysis of 30,000 Twitter accounts provides a map of online extremists—and reveals that support for Trump is what holds them together.'

BolleauxtoBankers · 04/11/2018 04:51

My apologies. This is a long, but I do believe, a very important Twitter thread for today. (As an aside, an old friend of mine has recently gently postulated that there may be a military coup waiting on the back burner, just in case..)

Greg Sargent
‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS
17h17 hours ago

  1. An important point is getting lost in all the discussion of Trump’s decision to send troops to the border to “protect us” from the migrant caravan. And we need to recapture it. A thread follows. 2) This decision needs to be understood as official misconduct of the very highest order. It isn't merely Trump using the military to “play politics,” which frames the issue too euphemistically.
  2. Trump is using the military as a prop to sustain the monstrous and reprehensible campaign fiction that destitute migrants hundreds of miles away pose a national emergency.
  3. It is precisely because this is such an absurd and monumental falsehood that he is sending in troops. Trump needs to do this, in order to create imagery on voters’ televisions that makes that fiction appear real.
  4. Former military officers are now on record with @washingtonpost calling this out for what it is. One says the depiction of the migrants as an “invasion” is fantasy. Another bluntly asks whether the military is being used for “political purposes”: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-election-eve-border-mission-puts-the-military-in-partisan-crosshairs/2018/11/02/880dd048-deb5-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html?utm_term=.29199929030e
  5. A military report debunks Trump’s biggest lies. It concludes only 20% of migrants will arrive at border. As for Trump's claims about “middle Easterners” and “tough fighters," The Post concludes: “The assessment does not support any of those claims.” www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/army-assessment-of-migrant-caravans-undermines-trumps-rhetoric/2018/11/02/78b9d82a-dec0-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.4202b187fbeb
  6. This isn’t just Trump. Many Republican incumbents and candidates are all in with this agitprop effort to whip up xenophobic panic for the express purpose of energizing the GOP base. Ask yourself: How many of them have objected to sending in the military to feed that panic?
  7. Some argue that the caravan presents serious issues that must be addressed. True, but there are answers to these problems (though the problems are difficult ones). The point is, what Trump is doing makes solutions harder to achieve, not easier: www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/26/president-trump-has-found-his-reichstag-fire/
  8. Because of all of these things, Trump’s decision is absolutely ripe for serious Congressional scrutiny. As I’ve reported, if Democrats take back the House, that’s exactly what it will get: www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/11/01/trump-must-be-held-accountable-for-his-troops-to-the-border-stunt/?utm_term=.0e1850bd00d9
  9. We have still not found language adequate to capturing the deep saturation of lies, hate, racism, xenophobia, and corrosive bad faith that we’re seeing from the Trump presidency, which in all kinds of ways are being enabled by his party: [[https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/11/02/trump-floats-a-new-absurdity-to-support-his-latest-hate-narrative/ mentions]]

11) This is not the conduct of an actor in a democracy. And we need to call it out as such. No more euphemisms. No more dancing around the lies, racism, hate, demagoguery, and nonstop agitprop deception flooding out of official channels. No more. FIN

BolleauxtoBankers · 04/11/2018 05:03

This arrived in my inbox this morning, with the message from the New York Times magazine that "We’re publishing next week’s cover story early." [[https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/magazine/FBI-charlottesville-white-nationalism-far-right.html?emc=edit_ma_20181103&nl=magazine&nlid=1980520720181103&te=1 U.S. Law Enforcement
Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism. Now They Don’t
Know How to Stop It.]]
(Won't have as much effect as the infamous deliberately timed Comey probe letter, but still.)

BolleauxtoBankers · 04/11/2018 05:06

Oh, sorry, I may have read too much into the timing, as I've just realised that by next week they may have meant "tomorrow", being as I'm on Gulf time and they're a way behind, on New York time Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2018 08:05

Thanks the links Bolleaux - DH (US citizen living in UK) has mused for awhile now that Trump is one step away from declaring martial law.

Gumpendorf · 04/11/2018 08:11

Capt. Sullenberger: Vote against Republican control www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/capt-sullenberger-vote-against-republican-control-1361293379598 via @msnbc

Sully - 'this is a crisis'. Worth watching.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2018 08:15

Trump’s promise of violence if the GOP loses the midterms is pure demagoguery at its worst. Unfortunately, he’ll only get worse as 2020 approaches. His growing desperation will sink him lower and lower. He will say anything, anytime he thinks it will help him (his only interest!)
twitter.com/johnwdean/status/1058949525937639425?s=21

www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/28/donald-trump-warns-of-violence-midterms-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn

Gumpendorf · 04/11/2018 08:18

This cartoon reinforces Bolleaux's point but I hesitated to post because it may trivialise what is such a serious situation.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/11/2018 08:48

What to do if you are turned away from voting:
www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/politics/midterm-election-voting-rights-trnd/index.html

BolleauxtoBankers · 04/11/2018 11:51

Well, Gumpendorf, I think that cartoon illustrates very well that Trump has taken the standard right-wing private militia model to a massive extreme by treating the US military as his own private policing force.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2018 13:55

The Jaworski “Road Map,” the last great still-secret Watergate document, became public Wednesday. Read what @benjaminwittes & @jacklgoldsmith have to say about its contents and its potential lessons for Mueller.
twitter.com/lawfareblog/status/1059079315881684992?s=21

www.lawfareblog.com/watergate-road-map-what-it-says-and-what-it-suggests-mueller

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2018 13:58

What Are Early Voting Numbers Across the Country Telling Us?
www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/11/what-are-early-voting-numbers-across-the-country-t.html

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2018 14:12
Angry

Absolutely disgusting robocall about Stacy Abrams being sent to Georgia voters goo.gl/HiJ7Ri
twitter.com/juddlegum/status/1058735237482586118?s=21