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To wonder how representative MN is of real life...

135 replies

Oakenbeach · 27/10/2018 07:45

Although there’s a huge range of posters on here, I get the impression it’s heavily skewed towards the professional middle classes.

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BatsAreCool · 27/10/2018 11:23

Oblomov18 I agree I think most people tell the truth.

I do think a few people that want to think that most posters lie are either judging others by their own actions (e.g. they lie so think everyone else does) or they are so wrapped up in their own bubble that they can't see that people do lead many different lives to them or have different experiences or views.

reallybadidea · 27/10/2018 11:26

Hush-wearers are overepresented IME. My social circle is the precise Hush demographic and I've only ever seen one other person wearing something from Hush. I might be wrong of course, but I think their style is fairly identifiable.

Oblomov18 · 27/10/2018 11:26

I regularly/occasionally do most of things that MN'ers frown upon.
I find MN'ers a bit straight laced and twee.

As per pp who said that most only have a thimble of sherry at Christmas. 

reallybadidea · 27/10/2018 11:32

What I find mind-boggling though is people who say MN isn't like 'real life' because they've never met anyone who was eg privately educated. Why on earth is a life where you don't meet anyone with a different upbringing more 'real' than a life where you know people with lots of different upbringings/education's/lifestyle. It's like when people on front door threads literally can't conceive of anything other than a yale lock Grin

Neshoma · 27/10/2018 11:45

I don't lie about who I am, but I do name change frequently.

I don't take MN seriously but there is a hardcore of MNetter's who believe everything thats written. I'm not afraid to call people out, or have a different view BUT find the regulars run of to MNHQ to report me rather than have a debate. One was shocked I didn't vote Labour to make benefits better. I said I voted for issues that affect me and my community but he/she was virtualy puce with rage.

On another note, I have seen some really good threads with excellent support and advice, and it restores my faith in humanity and shows MN can be a lifeline to some.

Nothisispatrick · 27/10/2018 12:01

I find MN'ers a bit straight laced and twee.

Yep! I feel like I’ve lived a wild and crazy life when I read some threads! But I haven’t.

Also MN’ers are incredibly clean and have very strict cleaning and washing schedules. Am I the only MN’er who does the housework as and when needed?

MaisyPops · 27/10/2018 12:03

reallybadidea
I hadn't heard of Hush or boden until I joined mumsnet.
I also have never met anyone who uses Ocado.

grumpy4squash · 27/10/2018 12:06

This!! I also in my 40 odd years on this planet have never met anyone that has, or would say 'that doesn't work for me' to shut down a request, I can't imagine it coming out of anyone's mouth!

Never? I say it quite often, especially at work. My most recent was a colleague wanting a lift for a long journey to a conference, but the detour to their house would have been an extra couple of hours for me. So the answer: 'that doesn't work for me - why don't you get a coach to XX city and I'll pick you up there'.

Also PILs: "we'll come for Christmas and stay until 3rd Jan"
Me: "that doesn't work for me - would you like to come on 28th Dec?"

Growingboys · 27/10/2018 12:12

You sound quite scary grumpy

greendale17 · 27/10/2018 12:28

To me MN

-Hates baby showers
-They never judge a person. Not a single soul.
-Tolerates benefit fraudsters because it is no ones business

TeaAddict235 · 27/10/2018 13:26

I have been around on Mn only for 5 years but I'm constantly astounded by the sheer number of users who believe that people fit according to the stereotypes that the media portray. For example that everything that the evening right wing standard publishes is true; e.g. 'most kids in London attending breakfast clubs', will be read and argued by some MN'ers that 'all Londoners are foreign and so foreign kids are poor and hungry' rather than 'most parents need before school care as work starts before 8;30am'. It irritates me.

But I agree, there is a certain consensus present within certain threads, but overall it is becoming more working class. This in itself isn't a problem, but there is a lot of unnecessary middle class bashing saddled with xenophobia. The names threads with the "hidden" 'oh that sounds too black' comments for names, ' you need to make it like this Emily Ann', 'X give their names twee British names'. I think someone upthread called them the Anxious aspirational classes, they're riddled with anxieties that 'their' world order is changing.

yesyesyess · 27/10/2018 13:47

Tolerates benefit fraudsters because it is no ones business

Hell yes to this. Stealing is stealing, but it's okay if you are poor.

BoomTish · 27/10/2018 13:58

I’m not a typical Mumsnetter (not from the UK, don’t have kids), but I think the anonymity on here does give a more accurate reflection of real lives.

I’m a very private person and would never tell anyone in real life how much I or DH earn. We’re both high earners, but I don’t think any of our friends or family know that. They know we’re both earning and have a decent lifestyle, but wouldn’t know the levels of investments and savings we have.

Nobody knows about my husband’s lengthy history of severe depression, and that she’s spent time in psychiatric hospitals.

Nobody knows the real reason we haven’t had children.

Nobody knows we have a cleaner.

These are things I’ll post about on MN, but wouldn’t discuss in real life.

JacquesHammer · 27/10/2018 14:01

I don’t know there is such a thing as a “real life” that is the same for everyone.

Kemer2018 · 27/10/2018 14:04

Middle class
Competitive parenting
Professionally qualified
Married
Enjoys alcohol
Divided over trans

What gets me is how many posters think that it's just so easy to leave a relationship when they have kids and/or no income.
Ltb they say.....how is a woman with no income, no savings, no assets, dependent children, no family support, supposed to house and herself and her family on her own? I'd love to know. I am her.
Everything I've read is impossible in practice.
Definitely easier for a high earner to ltb.

EwItsAHooman · 27/10/2018 14:08

how is a woman with no income, no savings, no assets, dependent children, no family support, supposed to house and herself and her family on her own?

There are some people on MN - some, not all - who would then castigate you for claiming benefits or would ask why didn't plan for such an eventuality or point out "and yet you had children with him..." because some people come here purely to be nasty to other people and say the things that would rightly earn a sharp "fuck off, mate" in real life.

JacquesHammer · 27/10/2018 14:08

There does seem to be an increasing number of posters who are unable to process that other versions of “normal” exist outside their very small circle.

TeaAddict235 · 27/10/2018 14:15

Or that as a woman you 'should be squirrelling away money for when it all falls apart'. Mistrustful and dishonest. Yes save, be financially savvy, be ready to be economically active, but do not assume that every man is out to shaft you.

Give him an ultimatum of X months and if you're not pregnant then leave. Hold on just a minute. Are you about to hold someone to ransom for a baby, and then most likely end up a single parent as a result?? I hate the threats that I read here, so divisive.

WeaselsRising · 27/10/2018 14:45

I joined MN in 2003 when I was the only person I knew with a DC with ADHD and we were struggling with his behaviour. It was at the time very left leaning, very lentil weaving, very MC.

In recent years it has gone almost completely the other way. SPAG abandoned as "it doesn't matter" (when you only have the written word to convey tone/ meaning it really does) and people torn to bits for pointing out that it would be much easier to read a long post with paragraphs and punctuation.

It used to be quite niche where now it is mainstream. A military guy at work was describing something as "a work version of Mumsnet" the other day. The biggest change though is the constant filching by the media which really puts me off asking for help on anything really personal in case it's dragged across the papers or Radio 2.

As far as the polarisation, we get this in RL. Where I work people go off on holiday to Cuba or Borneo and think nothing of having 4 or 5 foreign holidays a year. Someone on my team has been just this year on a train across the Rockies for 3 weeks, 2 weeks in Orlando, a week in Las Vegas and several weekends away in France and the UK. That is normal in my office where most people are at a high level. We had a midweek stay in Newcastle as our main holiday 2 years ago (Mon to Fri) and people laughed when they found out Blush. Basically we couldn't afford to stay in Cornwall or Devon.

In contrast, DH works in Retail. His colleagues go on holiday in a caravan in the UK or camp in Northern France. They didn't think our going to Newcastle was odd at all.

It is perfectly possible for normal people to be at either end of the spectrum. The only thing I do find odd about MNetters is how many people live with a partner and children. I can only think of a couple of people who aren't married at work, and they tend to be very young and pre children.

bbcessex · 27/10/2018 14:50

unlimiteddiluringjuice - i somehow read your post to say ‘an unusually high number of people into embroidery’!!!!

AhhhhThatsBass · 27/10/2018 15:00

I may get flamed for this but it seems to me that there are a high number of posters that suffer from mental illness, people that have children with SEN, people that go NC with family (never met anyone that has done that with their parents) and posters with not many friends IRL (through their own choice). Therefore I don’t think MN is representative of my life but then I don’t think my life is representative of An average mumsnetter either.

AGHHHH · 27/10/2018 15:04

It's not representative at all for me. Half the stuff people come out with on here is never said in real life.

Whereisthecoffee · 27/10/2018 15:04

I find on here that a large proportion still don’t understand the financial difficulties of others , fifty pound is a large sum of money to me and thinking of spending £200 to stay in a hotel at a wedding would be unthinkable.

EwItsAHooman · 27/10/2018 15:11

I find on here that a large proportion still don’t understand the financial difficulties of others

Look at the posts about period poverty and umpteen posters saying "smartprice pads/tampons cost 20p a pack" not taking into account that the nearest big-name supermarket may be a £6+ bus ride away, that an online shop comes with a £40 minimum spend and you need internet/a debit card for it, or that the 20p pads/tampons are usually low quality so you need to change them more often and will need multiple packs (more so if there is more than one female in the house having periods or you have heavy periods) so 20p becomes £2-£3 and there really are families who simply don't have £2-£3 spare. The 20p-a-pack posters will then start on questioning the priorities of the parents and flinging around terms like 'neglect' and 'should have considered their finances before they had kids'.

grumpy4squash · 27/10/2018 15:12

You sound quite scary grumpy

I can see how it might sound that way. I say 'sorry, that doesn't work for me' in quite a light, cheery way, definitely not like a scowling matron!

I'm not as grumpy as my name suggests.....