to be thrilled that not one anti-trans activist was voted onto my school board

[ItLooksABitOff]

In spite of the best efforts of some on MN and various right-wing Christians.

AIBU?

[BlackShutters]

2S gay and lesbian kids are welcome

What are 2S gay and lesbian kids? Or is that a typo?

In any case, what do you mean they're welcome? Were they not allowed to go to school? Surely that would be illegal.

[MrsTerryPratchett]

Two spirit.

[BlackShutters]

Oh, thanks, I see.
Cultural appropriation then.

[MrsTerryPratchett]

It's an easy way of looking like you care about First Nations children while doing nothing about poverty, over representation in the care system, homelessness, addiction, sexual abuse and racism.

[Mamaryllis]

Pop us a link to all these SOGI discussions on mn then
Fascinating that so many actual Canadian mners haven’t seen them.
My lovely two spirit friend turned down a trans award btw (completely apropos of nothing, as your thinking seems a little... disjointed so I’ll join in with the stream of consciousness stuff). I have no idea why you would assume gender critical mners would be anti gay or lesbian. Unless you are of the opinion that people who believe in biology are homophobic? Seems a bit weird when the trans agenda itself is deeply homophobic, but that’s what you get when you just post somewhere to mindlessly gloat and don’t think it through.
Struggling to work it out really.
Mners are right wing?
Mners are Christians?
Mners are in some way linked to right wing Christian groups?
Mners are homophobes?
Mners are right wing Christian homophobes?
I dunno mate. It’s looking like pretty sketchy thought processes to me.

[ItLooksABitOff]

I don't know or care how you define yourself Mamaryllis, but I think it's verrrry interesting that some MNers are happy to align themselves with right-wing Christians on this issue. Just like quite a few MNers were happy to jump on the Jordan Peterson train even though they had a poor understanding of his context, Canadian culture, or his lying about 'compelled speech.' He's another conservative Christian btw.

It's almost like they're right-wing themselves. if the shoe fits....:)

2S means 2 spirit. It's a phrase for indigenous people to use about themselves and since there are indigenous kids in our public school system of course they would use it.

Here's an article about it by Rebecca Nagle, www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/two-spirit-identity_us_5b37cfbce4b007aa2f809af1

[ItLooksABitOff]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3228496-Day-of-protest-in-Canada#77321207

a Day of Protest in Canada thread started on MN - actually about protests in BC. Darn, it looks like MNers were using the board to do activism in Canada. WHAT. And yes, these protests were organized by well known right-wing Christian agitators.

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

What's a school board?

Mumsnet is UK based why would we be involved in Canadian laws?

[RiverTam]

Why are you so happy to be telling children the monstrous lie that they can change sex? Why are you happy to be grooming girls to accept males in their private safe spaces?

What kind of a person does a happy dance about that? Answers on a postcard...

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

What a weird thread?

You've discovered an massive secret in an open public forum?

[WelcomeToGreenvale]

Good job your school board!

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

This is why we have posters not understanding UK laws isn't it?

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

This time OP. They’ll learn in due course.

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

Meddling kids!

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

What is a school board?


Because I thought chalk board, or white board at first and it didn't make sense.

[Blanchedupetitpois]

YANBU, how fab!

[Blanchedupetitpois]

Why are you happy to be grooming girls to accept males in their private safe spaces?

Are you talking about trans women and girls? Cos you know that in the U.K. they’ve been allowed to use the women’s bathrooms and changing rooms for like 8 years? And it’s caused so few issues and so little disruption that the vast majority of the anti-trans brigade on MN apparently aren’t even aware of that fact! Just amazing, right?

[exLtEveDallas]

I wonder where the "Ooh I need help hiding FWR because I'm sick of all the trans threads" are tonight - hiding AIBU maybe?

😂😂😂

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

Transexuals can but most of the transumbrella can't can they.

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

It goes from 5000 to a lot more, 500,000 is being banded around but I don't really know where that is from.


Likewise we jump from five transwomen in female prisons to.... 125....

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

That's the point isn't it, self ID is to allow anyone under the trans labor to have the same access as a transexual with a GRC.

It opens the floodgates.

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

Umbrella not labor.*

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

The gate keeping is there for a reason:

//www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/6B5F217162ABD9B3189F2EB82787034E/S1758320900012695a.pdf/gender_reassignment_5_years_of_referrals_in_oxfordshire.pdf

This study shows that it works, here out of 39 people 2 were rejected for a GRC for being peadophiles...

This is why we have been safe for 8 years, were have gatekeepers.

[CaptainKirksSpookyghost]

So while I'm thrilled you managed to uphold the law. I don't want the law here to change, because genuine transsexuals are not now and never have been the issue.

[Deadbudgie]

And what are their views on how to improve the school for the 99.9% of students who are not trans? Hopefully this issue is not going to take up too much time. Hopefully where it is an issue they are balanced enough in their views that they respect the needs and views of The majority