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If you haven't peaked yet, read this: "The Redwoods are not only trans, but a 'multiple'”...

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ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 19/10/2018 05:19

"The idea that we must accept anyone’s identity claims, no matter how outlandish or divorced from material reality, leads to some strange places.

[...]

The Redwoods are not only trans, but a “multiple” – they claim to be eight people in the same body, “and most of us are women and non-binary”. (Their daily struggles, chronicled on Twitter, will strike a chord with anyone who’s ever tried to get several young children dressed and out of the house in the morning.) “We are tired of both trans and multiple experiences being erased, including by trans sanism,” they tweeted on 23 September. They are also oppressed by “singlet-normativity”. There is, inevitably, a hashtag: #PluralPride."

By Helen Lewis in The New Statesman.

Link: www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/10/problem-gender-self-id-designed-solve-real-debate-has-failed

You're welcome.

(And no, IANBU.)

OP posts:
ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 19/10/2018 05:21

PS Don't forget to fill out the consultation, it closes tonight at 11pm

OP posts:
ImMissHannigan · 19/10/2018 06:37

Do you have a link to the consultation please?

CookieWarbler · 19/10/2018 06:41

It's quite a big document to negotiate and theres not much time left so here's a link to submit it with pre-populated answers by Fair Play for Women
fairplayforwomen.com/email/?nonamp=1#wpforms-17854

ContessaGoesAMarching · 19/10/2018 06:46

If you do have time for the whole thing, here's the link and the FPFW guidance to help you through it.

consult.education.gov.uk/government-equalities-office/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act/

fairplayforwomen.com/full_guide/

ContessaGoesAMarching · 19/10/2018 06:47

Actually you just need the 2nd link Blush

LEMtheoriginal · 19/10/2018 06:55

Isnt there a topic for this?

teawamutu · 19/10/2018 07:20

@CookieWarbler submitted - thanks.

TheHauntedFishtank · 19/10/2018 07:27

Thanks @CookieWarbler, have submitted my response

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 19/10/2018 07:35

Isnt there a topic for this?

No.

PeakTrans · 20/10/2018 15:11

After googling the Redwoods I have no words!!!!!

darkriver198868 · 20/10/2018 15:55

The Pluralpride hashtag is being used by the Dissociative Identity Disorder community. It has nothing to do with the trans debate .

DID is a genuine mental health condition .

Haworthia · 20/10/2018 16:17

The thing is, DID is a very controversial diagnosis in itself, is it not? So for it to be appropriated and minimised (I say “minimised” because once you give a serious psychiatric disorder a “-pride” hashtag and conflate it with transgenderism, I think you’re minimising it) with talk of “oppression” and “singlet-normativity” is really fucking bizarre.

If we accept that we live in a singlet-normative society and those with only one personality needs to check their privilege, where does it end?

easternedge · 20/10/2018 16:22

But what about the ordinary young people who are genuinely struggling with their identity? Why are you posting about extremes in an attempt to stir up shit?

It's embarrassing and YABU so HTH

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