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To correct this?

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TrainsandDiggers · 09/10/2018 16:08

If your title was Dr and your child’s teacher kept referring to you as Mrs (a fair enough assumption on their part), would you correct them? And if you did, would you sound like you’re a bit up yourself? I’m aware of people correcting to Ms, Miss or Mrs, but not to anything else. TIA

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JamPasty · 10/10/2018 19:41

Having a PhD makes someone a real Doctor. There are two types of Doctor - medical ones and ones with PhDs. The title Dr is appropriate for both of them.

Havaina · 10/10/2018 19:58

I don't mean to denigrate PHD holders, but I wouldn't address a PHD holder as a Dr and anyone who asked me to wouldn't get a Hmm look.

Havaina · 10/10/2018 19:59

*would get

RainbowBriteRules · 10/10/2018 20:03

Outside the world of academia being a medical doctor and going to med school is far more impressive and more worthwhile than most PhDs. I know they are a ‘real’ doctor but to the general public, medical doctors are just better. Although unless in a professional capacity I would not expect to call a medical doctor ‘Dr’ either. Ridiculously formal.

At school you are Mr or Mrs/Ms/Miss Child’ssurname to make life easy on the teachers. If you have come to help on a school trip you are surely there to help and not to hinder by stropping about titles.

In addition, the risk is that there will be an accident and everyone assumes you are a medical doctor if you go by Dr. You then look like even more ridiculous when you have to make the point you are not.

JamPasty · 10/10/2018 20:04

Why though - Dr is the accepted title for someone with a PhD. I don't mean when chatting down the pub, but when in a situation when a title is required, why would you not use their one?

JamPasty · 10/10/2018 20:06

That's to Havaina by the way

spanieleyes · 10/10/2018 20:08

A couple of our teaching staff are doctors but wouldn't expect, in a primary school, for their title to be used, it's not relevant to the situation. Whereas if they taught in a secondary school it wouldn't be uncommon to be known as Doctor.

Weird!

Jux · 10/10/2018 20:11

I think you could mention, in passing - lightly and laughingly - that you always get an image of MIL when you hear "Mrs X". Then you and teacher have a little laugh about that and she'll almost certainly ask you what you're normally called which opens up the convo re first name or Dr X. Discussion about message sent to young children especially girls and lo! You've got a drinking buddy! Wink

Nodecentusernamesleft · 10/10/2018 20:11

I think you should be addressed by your correct title. You have earned your title. Furthermore, why is it ok to correct someone from Mrs to Ms? bur not from Mrs to Dr?

Try calling the teacher Miss if she is Mrs, whichever is incorrect and see if she corrects you.

Havaina · 10/10/2018 20:12

In what situation would a PHD holder need to be addressed as Dr, outside of academia?

Most professors at uni were Drs and I was happy to call them Dr xx in that setting.

JamPasty · 10/10/2018 20:17

In what situation would a PHD holder need to be addressed as Dr, outside of academia?

If I'm filling in a form and it asks for my title, I put Dr as that is my title. Why would I put something that isn't my title? Not trying to be sarky - I genuinely don't understand.

Havaina · 10/10/2018 20:18

I meant being addressed as Dr i.e. in person.

No issue with putting Dr as title on a form.

mloo · 10/10/2018 20:20

DD has a math teacher (6th form) who goes by Dr. He earned it, fair enough.

Lecturer friend said she used Dr. on her bookings which helped her avoid fraud once (teenager didn't look like a Dr).

spanieleyes · 10/10/2018 20:21

Try calling the teacher Miss if she is Mrs, whichever is incorrect and see if she corrects you.

We get called Miss all the time, very rarely Mrs, and quite often Mum!

JamPasty · 10/10/2018 20:24

I can't say I can think of many situations when anyone has wanted to address me by a title (except for when they are asking my details to fill in a form, so that doesn't count :) ). I guess I would try to get them to use my first name, or first and second name if they wanted more formality. If they absolutely insisted on a title, they'd get told Dr though (and I'd be weirded out by someone being so formal!).

Rainbowtrain · 10/10/2018 20:29

If it was a man he would probably just say "hello everyone, oh, it is Dr by the way" and keep talking. So just mention it like that or sign the email like it or just next trip introduce yourself as Dr. X

BrightonGallery7 · 10/10/2018 20:33

If you are a medical doctor, then yes, you should correct her. Otherwise no.

BenjaminTheDonkey · 10/10/2018 21:18

So you're not even a real doctor? Hmm

Ever so slightly goady.

It's a problem that seems to be peculiar to English-speakers. In other languages a medical practitioner (médecin in French, Arzt in German) is distinct from someone with an academic doctorate (docteur or Doktor).

badg3r · 10/10/2018 21:31

I am Dr Maiden Name but frequently get Mrs DH Name. This grates a bit because it's my lovely mil's name, not mine. Likewise the alternative, Mrs Maiden Name (which I get a lot too) is my mum.
I use Dr on official stuff because I don't like Ms or to be defined by my marital state. So it is the best of a bad bunch really. I much prefer systems in other languages where eg Frau or Madame just mean woman.
In your position I would let it lie though unless it comes up in conversation - male or female I think it's a bit pretentious to correct people outside of a professional setting.

Jux · 10/10/2018 21:39

In English they're all Drs just some are MD and some PhD or DPhil. It seems more likely that the Brit/English(?) general dislike of 'educated classes' probably has more to do with it.

Blondie1993 · 10/10/2018 21:43

I wouldn't mention it but it would be a total non issue for me, wouldn't bother me in the slightest if someone called me miss/mrs/dr/mr Grin. If it really bothers you, you could just raise it in a light hearted fashion if you are worried what others might think!

My partner has the title Dr (veterinary surgeon) as do many of my colleagues/friends (I work in the veterinary world) but none of them seem to have any interest in using it.

I don't fully understand the need for some to bring sexism into this thread but none of the men I know of, who have earned the title Dr, demand or request they are called it. Nor are they called it automatically. And there are plenty more women in this profession than men Grin.

Chanelprincess · 10/10/2018 21:45

I am Dr Maiden Name but frequently get Mrs DH Name.

DH and I are both doctors but I am Dr maiden name in a professional setting and Mrs DH name otherwise. I can imagine that might cause confusion for a school if titles are used.

BenjaminTheDonkey · 10/10/2018 22:27

In English they're all Drs just some are MD and some PhD or DPhil.

Very few British doctors are MDs. This is the name of the American medical qualification. Some British doctors have done MDs (a postgraduate research degree in the UK, not offered by many universities any more) but most haven't: all have a primary medical qualification (BM BS, MBChB, etc.) and some have intercalated bachelor's or master's degrees but few have doctorates.

BertrandRussell · 10/10/2018 22:33

Surely it's considered "bad form" to use titles in a non professional capacity at all-whether you're a man or a woman?

Jux · 10/10/2018 22:37

BenjaminTheDonkey I didn't know! Things have changed in the last 50 odd years. Thanks for clarifying! Star