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Convicted pedophile working in supermarket aibu?

142 replies

youmeatseven · 08/10/2018 15:21

I worked in a supermarket (big chain, green logo) a few years ago and one of my colleagues at the time was arrested and charged with various sexual offences against children (under 10) and animals. He admitted what he done (the worst of the worst) and was placed on the sex offenders register, given a community payback order and a fine. Imagine my shock today to go into the store for the first time in over 2 years to find him stacking shelves, still employed by the supermarket.

I left my trolley, got the name of the store manager and left the shop feeling sick to my stomach.

AIBU to complain about this and ask the store managers if they are aware of his history (he's probably still doing it) or should I just leave it? I can't believe he still has a job let alone in a very busy supermarket

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Redglitter · 08/10/2018 16:23

So this man was a former colleague of the OP and despite being convicted of the worst of the worst he didn't get jailed.

Clearly if he was arrested and is on the sex offenders register he's committed some offence but I can't help but wonder if the content & severity hasn't been exaggerated as the story was passed round his former workplace.

You could boycott that store for another but who knows what convictions some of their staff might have.

GreenMeerkat · 08/10/2018 16:25

As opposed to what?

Sitting at home claiming benefits that you, the taxpayer, has to fund?

CardinalCat · 08/10/2018 16:26

YABU.

You have also posted this incoherent nonsense and then buggered off, which is VERY annoying.

HisBetterHalf · 08/10/2018 16:26

YANBU

ilovesooty · 08/10/2018 16:27

The supermarket would not be entitled to carry out a dbs for a shelf stacker

He would only have been asked if he has any offences not yet considered spent. If this was "a few years ago" the offences might be spent.

There is absolutely no evidence that he is @a fucking child rapist" and no reason whatsoever for his colleagues to be told about his offences.

The OP is wasting her time contacting the manager and quite rightly so.

NicePieceOfPlaid · 08/10/2018 16:29

YABU. He's no danger where he is, better he's working than with time on his hands.

Sparklesocks · 08/10/2018 16:32

It's a tricky subject, what else can we do? We can't lock them all up forever, we don't have the resources, eventually they come back to society. This job is well managed and overseen, and he has no direct contacts with minors like he would in a school or a different working environment.

LibraryLurker · 08/10/2018 16:34

In my experience of working in retail, if the OP knew the "alleged offender" when she worked there in the past, there will be some long term staff (every store has a few) who will know the whole story. Managers tend to come and go but if this person had done anything, someone would have remembered and it would be common knowledge in the staff room. If he has got a job there more recently then he is as entitled to a job as anyone else. All the comments above about being better for him to be in work than not hold true.

PickAChew · 08/10/2018 16:35

While he is stacking shelves, you know exactly where he is and what he's doing. YABU.

PurpleDaisies · 08/10/2018 16:35

He’s not “the worst of the worst” if he didn’t go to prison.

People need to work. A supermarket seems a pretty sensible job to me.

Eliza9917 · 08/10/2018 16:36

There's an awful lot of apologists and minimisers on this thread.

So if the rapist of the 2 week old baby got two years and then you saw him working in a local store, would you think 'that's all good, that's nice he's busy, he's served his time, I hope he makes lots of friends amongst the staff here'?

Like fuck you would and all the other staff are entitled to know what they are working alongside imo.

DarlingNikita · 08/10/2018 16:40

Don't be silly, Eliza, and don't put words in people's mouths. Who says he's a 'rapist of the 2 week old baby'? Do you actually think he'd have got only listed on the sex offenders register, a community payback order and a fine if that were the case? And who's said 'I hope he makes lots of friends amongst the staff here.'?

BiggerBoat1 · 08/10/2018 16:42

What are you talking about Eliza? Nobody has said they hope he has made lots of friends and I don't think anyone has said he raped a baby.

Some people have simply pointed out that working in a supermarket is probably one of the safer places he could be.

Sparklesocks · 08/10/2018 16:43

Eliza it's highly unlikely an offender of such a horrific crime would be out after 2 years, but what is your alternative solution for what we should do with sex offenders after they're released?

Rhiannon13 · 08/10/2018 16:44

He should bloody well be working so taxpayers don't have to pay for him. Where better than a supermarket (as others have said) where he's fully supervised and not in contact with anyone vulnerable?

YABU to consider 'reporting' something his employers undoubtedly know already.

Gemini69 · 08/10/2018 16:44

If the Convicted Offender is still working in the same Supermarket, are we to assume that his child victims are still in the local area to this Supermarket and might see him in the store ? Hmm

or am I misunderstanding ?

NotExactlyHappyToHelp · 08/10/2018 16:44

YABU you can’t scratch your arse in the Asda without it being caught on camera.

Studies have shown that isolating sex offenders from living a relatively normal life (with strict monitoring and safeguarding put in place) means they are much more likely to reoffend.

If they’ve got nothing to lose they are much more dangerous.

mostdays · 08/10/2018 16:45

Problem with approaches like yours Eliza is that they actually raise the risks.

if the rapist of the 2 week old baby got two years
Maybe reading the sentencing guidelines (the section on rape of a child under 13 starts on p27) will reassure you.

ciderhouserules · 08/10/2018 16:48

Why are you assuming it's Asda? Waitrose has a green logo too.

OftenHangry · 08/10/2018 16:48

@Gemini69 his child victims are most likely in a different country. Going by what OP said this guy got, it was for a a possession of indecent images.

@Eliza9917 u ok hun?

GaryWilmotsTeeth · 08/10/2018 16:51

eliza are you talking about that horrible case in northern Ireland at the moment? because i'm pretty sure that guy is still on remand and the case hasn't gone to trial yet.

Eliza9917 · 08/10/2018 16:53

DarlingNikita Mon 08-Oct-18 16:40:10
Don't be silly, Eliza, and don't put words in people's mouths. Who says he's a 'rapist of the 2 week old baby'? Do you actually think he'd have got only listed on the sex offenders register, a community payback order and a fine if that were the case? And who's said 'I hope he makes lots of friends amongst the staff here.'?

I never said this one is the rapist of the baby, I said what if you came across the rapist of the two week old baby working somewhere, would it be all oh its ok, he's done his time, lets all have dinner with him.

I think not.

OftenHangry · 08/10/2018 16:54

@GaryWilmotsTeeth he is also kept under guard 24/7 for his own safety. Hope guards miss their shift once....

Sparklesocks · 08/10/2018 16:56

Eliza but we aren't talking about that exact scenario, are we? So why is that relevant?

OftenHangry · 08/10/2018 16:57

@Eliza9917 you are mixing apples and oranges.
It's like saying people who punched someone are the same as murderers.

As horrible as the whole thing is when it involves a child you simply cannot compare possesion of lower classed indecent images with a rape of 2 week old.

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