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Convicted pedophile working in supermarket aibu?

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youmeatseven · 08/10/2018 15:21

I worked in a supermarket (big chain, green logo) a few years ago and one of my colleagues at the time was arrested and charged with various sexual offences against children (under 10) and animals. He admitted what he done (the worst of the worst) and was placed on the sex offenders register, given a community payback order and a fine. Imagine my shock today to go into the store for the first time in over 2 years to find him stacking shelves, still employed by the supermarket.

I left my trolley, got the name of the store manager and left the shop feeling sick to my stomach.

AIBU to complain about this and ask the store managers if they are aware of his history (he's probably still doing it) or should I just leave it? I can't believe he still has a job let alone in a very busy supermarket

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DarlingNikita · 08/10/2018 15:51

when you are in any public place, any other CUSTOMER could be a paedophile for all you know.

This is a very good point.

Like some others, I'm not at all clear on what his crimes and his punishment were, but at the end of the day the options are he works, he stays behind bars (expensive, bad for him) or he is free but not allowed to work and either lives on benefits or is not allowed to and ends up on the street.

CaMePlaitPas · 08/10/2018 15:54

It makes me feel uncomfortable (and this absolutely pains me to say because I don't want to even consider that I'm sharing a space with a paedophile) but I guess stacking shelves in ASDA means he's away from his computer and is learning social interaction in a normalised, safe way.

user3493489 · 08/10/2018 15:55

He has obviously passed the supermarket's checks in order to become an employee.

Do you want him to be forced into drawing benefits forever when he'd rather be working and paying taxes?

busybarbara · 08/10/2018 15:56

People working in public places like that have to pass certain checks or have their employers be aware, so it's probably best that he's in such a monitored, micro-managed environment as it will keep kids safer. What else do you want? Him to be unemployed, sat at home, getting depressed and potentially building up urges to offend again? It is important to rehabilitate people like this.

spinabifidamom · 08/10/2018 15:57

You're having me on. It can''t be that bad surely. If it were, he would be definitely not be allowed to work anywhere or be in prison for sure. I'm sure you're overreacting here.
Stop with the over dramatics. Go find yourself a hobby and stop letting paranoia cloud your judgement as well. Put things into perspective please. I understand your anxiety. Honestly I do but this is a bit like saying that all male childcare providers are a threat to society.
Don't allow him near your kids. Simple as that.
If he approaches you, walk away smiling at him even if you do not want them. If you are not mentally disabled, then you should be employed somewhere.

RooCalledToby · 08/10/2018 15:59

It's better that he is working in a suitable job than sitting at home on benefits, looking at a computer all day.

The manager is not going to be able to discuss this with you anyway.

KennDodd · 08/10/2018 15:59

He's got to work somewhere, where would you suggest? I think good on the supermarket for hiring offenders.

This is the bit I find shocking He admitted what he done (the worst of the worst) and was placed on the sex offenders register, given a community payback order and a fine Community payback order and a fine for the 'worst of the worst' (child rape?) of under 10s?

mostdays · 08/10/2018 16:01

The best way to prevent reoffending is to not to make someone homeless, unemployed and a pariah- that's a speedy way to drive someone underground and lose track of them. Unpalatable as it is to think of someone who had had any involvement at all in the abuse of children being able to carry on with their lives, it's generally safer not to take everything away from them.

Collaborate · 08/10/2018 16:02

I would rather live in a society in which people convicted of all sorts of awful crimes are not prevented from entering the job market owing to pitchfork wavers. You can't believe he's got a job in a supermarket. I can't believe you're allowed out without an responsible adult.

Eliza9917 · 08/10/2018 16:05

I wonder what his co-workers would think about having someone like that in their midst.

I know I definitely wouldn't like to and they might just like the opportunity to petition their management and let them know that don't want to work alongside a fucking child rapist.

BabySharkAteMyHamster · 08/10/2018 16:10

Working and having purpose to his day is exactly what he should be doing. Because idle hands find trouble, literally.

Leave him. Don't be starting any silly rumours or encouraging baying mobs with pitchforks so he ends up leaving his job because that's how the problem ends up being driven underground. It's because of people like that we cant have it made public knowledge when a sex offender moves into.the area. It does nothing to help.

I say this as.someone who was.repeatedly abused throughout childhood. Leave him, you know who he is and.what he's.done so just stay out of his way.

AngelsSins · 08/10/2018 16:10

Do you mean convicted of pornography involving children and animals

No such thing as child porn, men wanking to photos of child abuse, does not suddenly make that child abuse into porn.

It sickens me too OP. Men claim these kinds of things ruin their lives, it’s clearly not the case. My sympathies are with the abused children, not the “struggles” of grown men who get off to such sick, repulsive abuse.

OftenHangry · 08/10/2018 16:11

He is not a "fucking child rapist" though.
Based on his sentence had indecent images. And according to law not the 'bad' ones.
Anything to do with children in this matter is abhorrent, but he has done his punishment and is in environment he can't harm anyone. I am pretty sure his online activities are also monitored or at least were.

mummyhaschangedhername · 08/10/2018 16:12

Sorry I don't understand this, you say he admitted guilt to multiple sexual offences against animals and children and now less than 2 years after his arrest he is working again, so not in prison? That doesn't make sense.

As for him working ever, the I think it's good he is working. What do you think should happen once someone comes out of Jail? As long as he isn't in a position of working with vunrable people then I don't see an issue. It's not nice, he should be in jail if you facts are correct but assuming as some point he would get out then working is part of his recovery. The other option is that the tax payed just pay for him to not work which really isn't Helping anyone.

bestbefore · 08/10/2018 16:12

Are you sure he wasn't sent down? Was he def convicted?

Storm4star · 08/10/2018 16:12

No child rapist would get community payback and a fine! I imagine she means the "worst of the worst" regarding images. But even then, those who view the "worst" (there is actually a legal scale) also get prison so I think the information is wrong there. Sex offenders work in all sorts of places. As many pp's have pointed out, would it be better if they were all at home on benefits?

DarlingNikita · 08/10/2018 16:13

I know I definitely wouldn't like to and they might just like the opportunity to petition their management and let them know that don't want to work alongside a fucking child rapist.

That's mob justice and I would hope that we've left that behind.

SummerGems · 08/10/2018 16:14

Gf. Sorry but you are.

At the end of the day and irrespective of anyone’s thoughts on sex offenders, this man has served his sentence according to the law,not according to the pitchfork brigade and is therefore entitled to resume a place in society, with some restrictions owing to their crimes.

If you think he shouldn’t be allowed to have a job what do you think he should do then? Apart from being locked up and the key thrown away obviously.

As for informing the store manager,I hate to disappoint, but the store manager would not be able to discuss his employees with you anyway so you’d be wasting your time.

Oh and welcome to MN.

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/10/2018 16:14

If he raped a child he would have got a much sterner sentence than a community payback order and a fine. So I’m guessing the OP doesn’t actually know what his offence was or what he plead guilty to. In any event, it’s right and proper that he works and a supermarket is a good place for him to do so. It’s entirely possible he’s been employed by them whilst fulfilling his community service - which is a good thing because it roots him in a community and normal life which is protective for him and for children he may come into contact with.

Not sure what the OP thinks happens to offenders in the UK.

BiggerBoat1 · 08/10/2018 16:15

Where do you expect him to work then?

Sounds like a good place to work to me. No unsupervised access to children, very public. Not seeing the problem here.

ManyCrisps · 08/10/2018 16:16

If what he did was truly serious then he would be in prison right now

overagain · 08/10/2018 16:17

YABU. He has a job, he is doing his job. His job does not include unsupervised access to vulnerable people. His job is likely decrease the risk of recidivism. if he loses this job he will find it difficult to find another, spend large quantities of time alone, likely get depressed and recidivism rates rise.

HollowTalk · 08/10/2018 16:18

It's far, far better that someone is supervised for 40 hours a week than just left at home with nothing but the internet for company. There's far more chance of rehabilitation. And people at the company will know. There's no need to tell them.

Sethis · 08/10/2018 16:18

YABU.

What, we should just execute all criminals so that they never pose a risk to anyone ever again?

With a black mark on his sheet as a sex offender, stacking shelves is basically the only job he CAN do. It's either that or live off benefits, draining money from people who actually need it, like the sick, disabled or children themselves. At least this way he pays taxes.

As others have said - bright lights, cameras, hundreds of people every minute of the day. Can't really ask for more.

LibraryLurker · 08/10/2018 16:22

I don't think the OP is coming back.

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