Life after death?

[ChooChooBeanz]

I was raised Catholic but have atheist beliefs, to me there is no proof of life after death ....but I desperately wish there was.

I wish I could believe that I will see all my relatives again, I miss them all so much & it’s so hard to think and once you die that’s it 😢

So AIBU to ask you all if you have seen anything that makes u believe in a life after death?

[Walkingdeadfangirl]

In the Christian pantheon, how does one figure out who the good gods are? The bad ones would most likely be telling everyone they are the good guys. And for all the Bible stories I have read, God is the evil one and Satan looks relatively passive.

So I hope the afterlife is an actual after life (with plenty of hedonistic fun) and we are not just stuck in heaven with who knows what maniacal god.

[BertrandRussell]

As Brian Cox puts it . "Our story is the story of the Universe. Every piece of everyone and everything you love, of everything you hate, of everything you hold precious was assembled in the first few minutes of the life of the Universe, and transformed in the hearts of stars, or created in their fiery deaths. When you die, those pieces will be returned to the Universe in the endless cycle of death and rebirth. What a wonderful thing to be part of that Universe. And what a story. What a majestic story!"

[Padparadscha]

You don't actually know if this nothingness exists - or doesn't

I base it on logical fact. Our brains can lose all information about who we are whilst we’re still living, so the idea we die and that ‘spirit’ carries on makes little sense. Heaven and hell are part of old human stories, so the likelihood of them actually being real places are as likely as Valhalla or Hades being real. A possibility, but not one I’d bet on. Ultimately no one will ever know 100%, but since absolutely no one has come back from being dead (I mean for more than a few minutes) we’ll never know. I assume they keep their silence because they are gone, body and mind.

[PlinkPlink]

I like that quote @Bertrand

I find it surprisingly comforting.

[themuttsnutts]

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary - near death experiences, ghosts, psychics. Unfortunately, we do not have enough evidence to prove how it happens as we don't know enough yet and there are plenty of ways of explaining these things away via what we do know - eg imagination, mental health issues, change in brain chemistry when we die. But none of this, we can physically touch

[Padparadscha]

near death experiences, ghosts, psychics.

All easily disproven. Especially psychics who are charlatans. As for proof, how has no one ever found evidence of the ‘supernatural’ elements of life? Solid, concrete, infallible proof during hundreds of years of human existence and development? All we have achieved, and yet no one can prove gods and spirituality, supposedly the most powerful things in the universe. When will we accept they’re just stories and let them go?

[exWifebeginsat40]

noego Mon 08-Oct-18 11:20:34
Use this life to find Nirvana then perhaps you will know

that’s easy. between Motörhead and Oasis. namaste.

[themuttsnutts]

When we actually know enough to prove they are just stories. I don't think we can know that until we can explain where the energy behind these phenomena comes from. Unfortunately, without being able to touch them physically, it is tricky. We don't know enough to get into them to do that.

Over the years, many a book has been written about time travel, which has been seen as fantasy. Stephen Hawking worked out it is theoretically possible and backed that up with the laws of physics, challenging existing laws.

I think there will be explanations for all of these things and some may well be disproved but I think the theories behind them won't be based on what we think because it will be down to a scientific discovery that we don't yet know

[BertrandRussell]

“I don't think we can know that until we can explain where the energy behind these phenomena comes from.”

What phenomena?

[Banamara]

We are descended from animals. We don't think animals and our pets have an afterlife, so what's the difference?

Anyway we will never know whether there is an afterlife will we? So you either believe, or hope there is one, or accept that there isn't and we are just dust again.

[themuttsnutts]

Apparitions, psychic experiences, near death experiences- anything potentially referring to the notion of life after death

[EmilyRosiEl]

I used to be Christian but these days I think I believe we turn off like computers too.

I have a health concern at the moment and this is on my mind a lot.

[BertrandRussell]

“Apparitions, psychic experiences, near death experiences- anything potentially referring to the notion of life after death”

Ah. But there are already rational explanations for all of these things.

[IAcceptCookies]

By spirit, I mean personality, thoughts, feelings... ...but where do the intangible bits go?

My dog has a personality, thoughts and feelings, too. Will he have an afterlife?

A pp said we're descended from animals. We're not. We ARE animals; we're great apes. We're special only because we're uniquely clever and manually skilled. We don't get a special reward at death for it though.

Those intangible bits are just the result of our brain processes. When our brain rots away the processes stop.

[IAcceptCookies]

Apparitions, psychic experiences, near death experiences

These are not phenomena, these are anecdotal, apocryphal, subjective experiences. Just as my DD is genuinely convinced she caught a glimpse of Santa Claus in sky in his sleigh last Christmas.

[noego]

@exwifebeginsat40

that’s easy. between Motörhead and Oasis

or queensryche

Om Shanti

[BertrandRussell]

We live on through memories, through shared experiences and stories. It was my father’s 100th birthday yesterday. He died 30 years ago and my children never met him. But yesterday I showed them pictures and told them stories about him and his family (that they’d heard a million times before!) and we drank a toast to him. And I hope they”ll tell their children about him. That’s immortality.

[themuttsnutts]

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1023231/life-after-death-consciousness-what-happens-when-you-die-evidence/amp

The above article explains what I was getting at

[Walkingdeadfangirl]

Our soul has to go somewhere after we die. Obviously they dont float around here on earth, or do they

[LoopyLemonade]

Once, just once this has ever happened and even then I'm still skeptical about life after death. I had a dream about a tutors mother sending flowers, flowers falling from a light, nothing special about this tutor. But I felt I had to tell this person that his mother was sending flowers to him in my dream. But anyway, I told them ....

I had a dream and you'll think I'm weird but your mum was sending flowers to you, it was really weird but I just have to tell you this dream.
(Also no idea if his mum was alive or not as we didn't have a personal close relationship)
Anyway, he looked at me really oddly and I confirmed to myself, yes I am indeed a weirdo!
Then he said, oh how strange, my mum has passed away but it's her grandsons first birthday today.
And I said, oh how strange.
And then we never spoke about it again.

[BertrandRussell]

The mutts- this is an interesting article about biocentrism pointing out some of the issues......

[themuttsnutts]

Thanks for the link. Interesting article, Bertrand and some food for thought

[CoughLaughFart]

Our soul has to go somewhere after we die.

Does it though? Couldn’t it just die along with your body?

[Padparadscha]

Our soul has to go somewhere after we die.

There’s no such things as souls. Again, just human folklore, based on the need to feel ‘special’.

[Walkingdeadfangirl]

Does it though? Couldn’t it just die along with your body?
How could our soul die, the definition of a soul is that it is eternal!