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Life after death?

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ChooChooBeanz · 07/10/2018 13:14

I was raised Catholic but have atheist beliefs, to me there is no proof of life after death ....but I desperately wish there was.

I wish I could believe that I will see all my relatives again, I miss them all so much & it’s so hard to think and once you die that’s it 😢

So AIBU to ask you all if you have seen anything that makes u believe in a life after death?

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PoisonousSmurf · 08/10/2018 11:21

Nope! It's only to make people feel better. This is why people should stop being so nasty to each other. There is no punishment or reward after life. Nothing, finito. Comprendo?

PlinkPlink · 08/10/2018 11:30

I'm not sure on this one. The thought is comforting.

But I try and think of it like this:

The people we have loved and lost are forever a part of us. They are forever kept alive in our hearts and minds. This, for me, is how they live on after death.

A few things have made me wonder though. On a couple of occasions, I have seen them in my dreams. Psychologically speaking, it was probably my brain dealing with the grief and processing it. To me though, it just felt so real. So magical. So lovely. The person I was mourning, after quite a long time, told me to move on. I woke up crying. But I did move on and it was lovely to see and hear her again.

There have been a few things that have happened since my son was born that were a little odd. Unique, shall we say. But that could have been my mind interpreting it how I want to.

I like to think they're keeping watch over us and they visit occasionally. The sceptical part of me thinks that it's more that they're with me in my heart and thoughts.

Sweetpea55 · 08/10/2018 11:36

Believing in the afterlife must be a great comfort to those who are having difficulty dealing with a bereavement.
My younger daughter says that when she has been going through some particularly upsetting times, has felt grandma close to her,,,,without even consciously thinking of her, She get a certain peace from this

iniquity · 08/10/2018 11:37

I like looking at it from a more scientific theory. If time travel is theoretically possible. Then you are only dead or not born in different timelines, there will always be a timeline where you exist. I like to think of my grandparents as being alive in their own timeline even though they are dead in this present timeline.

WiseOldBird · 08/10/2018 12:29

We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We have all had many lives across universes. Look on You Tube and find Facebook groups discussing these topics. People are waking up and realising the truth. Disclosure will be the next big thing to happen. Governments will soon be acknowledging the existence of ETs. We live in exciting times.

headinhands · 08/10/2018 14:40

People are waking up and realising the truth

How do you explain Brexit 😱😂

SilverySurfer · 08/10/2018 15:40

Is there any subject on the earth for which Brexit isn't responsible?

EmperorTomatoRetchup · 08/10/2018 19:12

I like looking at it from a more scientific theory

That isn't scientific theory.

PlinkPlink · 08/10/2018 21:06

Emperor yes it is. String Theory. Look it up.

EmperorTomatoRetchup · 09/10/2018 00:54

plink

I know fine well what string theory is thanks very much, so there's no need to be condescending.

The theory of the multiverse is not a scientific theory as it cannot be subject to empirical testing, it is a philosophical position.

PomBearWithoutHerOFRS · 09/10/2018 02:16

I was dead once, for about two minutes, and there was nothing at all. No tunnel, no light, no loved ones gone before or anything at all.

Armchairanarchist · 09/10/2018 02:45

No one knows. I've 'died' on the operating table and twice been on a ventilator in ICU and all I know is there was nothing and no conscious passing of time. I went to sleep and woke up.

stellabird · 09/10/2018 03:26

I've always thought that all religions were invented to control the masses. It makes perfect sense to invent a god for this purpose. Life after death is a comforting idea - I sometimes wish it was true, I'd love to see my Dad again - but I know it isn't true. When we die, the lights go out and the next generation continues the cycle of life.

dawnmist · 09/10/2018 07:47

Yes there’s definitely life after death, we are here to learn and grow. I also find it fascinating to read about those who have “died” and had a glimpse of heaven. Those who haven’t had this “glimpse” shouldn’t take it to mean that therefore there isn’t a heaven. Some people see ghosts, some don’t. It doesn’t change reality.

dawnmist · 09/10/2018 07:52

How has “inventing a God” controlled the masses. If anything it’s done the opposite when you consider how many wars have been fought in the name of religion. I never understand when people say they “know” it isn’t true. It’s impossible for them to “know” surely.

noego · 09/10/2018 08:24

@WiseOldBird
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We have all had many lives across universes

The truth seekers are discovering that heaven exists and it exists here on earth. We are all in this world, but not of this world.

More and more people are discovering this and realising that this world is illusory.

It is an evolution revolution. A spiritual anarchy of sorts.

As it says in 'A Course In Miracles'

Nothing real can be threatened.
Nothing unreal exists
Herein lies the peace of God

WiseOldBird · 09/10/2018 09:23

Everyone should read A Course in Miracles NoEgo. Also Conversations with God and Delores Cannon.

IAcceptCookies · 09/10/2018 09:38

dawnmist

In your first post you say Yes there’s definitely life after death;
in your second I never understand when people say they “know” it isn’t true. It’s impossible for them to “know” surely

Can you not see a bit of a contradiction in your position? Confused

noego · 09/10/2018 10:00

@WiseOldBird

And a lot more besides those books you mention. The Tao Te Ching being one of the most profound books/teachings I've ever read.

When the body ceases to exist, the consciousness wakes up to discover that this human existence was all a dream. Some of us are fortunate enough to have this realisation now.

Flowers
dawnmist · 09/10/2018 10:06

Yes i know what you’re saying, it does sound like double standards. But i see so many posts that say an emphatic “no”, said with such certainty that i don’t see why i shouldn’t do the same. But that is what faith is, if you believe in God, you don’t “think” there’s life after death, you “know” there is. Whereas a non believer saying with certainty “no there is no such thing” doesn’t know that for sure. Someone with faith DOES itms.

Padparadscha · 09/10/2018 10:12

Whereas a non believer saying with certainty “no there is no such thing” doesn’t know that for sure.

Someone with faith DOES itms.

That’s a ridiculous presumption. I know there isn’t such a thing as heaven, because it’s an illogical, human fantasy. It was invented by humans as part of a story, as our fragile egos can’t stand the idea of one day not existing as ‘us’. So to say ‘it’s real’ is just as factual as to say Hogwarts is a real place because you read it in a book. Wanting something to be real doesn’t make it so.

Again, religious people are confusing their belief with what facts are.

themuttsnutts · 09/10/2018 10:12

I'm on the fence. I do think the spirit is separate from the body. How are your thoughts and feelings connected to your body and your personality when all bodies are essentially the same whereas we, as individuals, are not? Where does this all go when we die? Where do the things that make us us, come from?

There are so many things we don't yet understand and can't explain

PlinkPlink · 09/10/2018 10:35

@EmperorTomnatoRetchup

Um... precisely where was I being condescending in my very brief response? Hmm I can assure you there was absolutely none in there.

I stand corrected though. It is more of a mathematical theory and I guess, a scientific hypothesis rather than a theory.

"It may seem that, by calling it “string theory” and presenting it as a possible solution to a scientific question, we’ve already answered in the affirmative: yes, string theory is a scientific theory. But it’s only a theory in themathematicalsense, which means it has its own set of axioms, postulates, elements, as well as the theorems and corollaries that can be derived from them. Set theory, group theory and number theory are all examples of mathematical theories, and string theory is another such example." (www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2015/12/23/why-string-theory-is-not-science/amp/ - granted not a scientific journal but at least it's not Wiki)

scarfaceace · 09/10/2018 10:37

I don't see what harm it does for people to believe there is an afterlife. If it gives them comfort that's good isn't it? It's not hurting anyone else.

If they die and find there is an afterlife, then brilliant, and if they die and there is nothing, then they won't know about it anyway.

CoughLaughFart · 09/10/2018 10:45

Based on the idiots on the Tube (and in my office) that I’ve had to deal with this morning, I’d settle for some evidence of life before death.

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