AIBU - do you punish a child twice or once?
whereiscaroline · 02/10/2018 15:08
Someone is BU. Who is it?
Child has received a detention at school for not being compliant and for backchatting and making noise in a lesson.
"Chris" thinks the child should also be punished at home to send a strong message.
"Alex" thinks the child is being punished already by school and that's enough.
Who is being unreasonable?
Sirzy · 02/10/2018 15:12
For a first offence?
School have dealt with it, decent discussion at home about what’s happened then move on.
You can back up school without giving extra punishment
Bbbbbbbb2017 · 02/10/2018 15:13
For something minor school deals, something significant they get both
moredoll · 02/10/2018 15:14
Home backs up the school by agreeing with detention.
No need then for extra punishment unless crime was involved.
multivac · 02/10/2018 15:16
"Backing up school" does not automatically mean imposing an additional punishment. It can mean reinforcing with the child that the punishment was correctly given, and that detention should be completed properly. It should also include talking to the child and confirming that 'home' finds the behaviour just as unacceptable as school does. Finally, it could involve setting a new boundary, should the unacceptable behaviour at school be repeated.
Simply taking away the kid's Xbox at home because they got a detention at school serves little to no purpose.
explodingkitten · 02/10/2018 15:16
Why would you punish twice? Wasn't one punishment enough? Didn't the school handle it themselves?
ChanklyBore · 02/10/2018 15:17
Punishment. Sounds so harsh.
When I make a mistake at work, it is dealt with at work.
What “punishment” do you have in mind?
There would definitely be conversations about a detention and why it happened.
Annasgirl · 02/10/2018 15:18
Back up school i.e. agree school were correct (also back up child in cases where school was unfair) and agree they punished fairly.
Do not add punishment at home.
I think Chris is confusing backing up the school with additional punishment.
Quartz2208 · 02/10/2018 15:19
The school have punished - home agrees. Doing another punishment IMO overrules the school by saying they have not punished enough
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 02/10/2018 15:20
@moredoll is right - home backs up school by supporting the detention, and giving the child a stern talking-to, and warning the child to buck up their attitude going forward.
Incidentally, this is the advice that was given by the dses’ school - to let the school handle the discipline issues that happened at school. I doubt Chris would expect the school to give a second punishment if the child had been punished once for doing something wrong at home.
This does depend on the severity of the ‘crime’ of course - for something minor like back chatting in class, a detention at school and a bollocking at home is entirely proportionate. If the child did something more serious - bunked off school, stole something,assaulted another child, or bullied someone, for example, then a double punishment would be appropriate in my opinion.
Thesnobbymiddleclassone · 02/10/2018 15:22
Home and school. Needs to know that what happens at school will be found out by mum and dad and the normal home punishments will be applied alongside the schools.
easyandy101 · 02/10/2018 15:26
What about suspension?
Well the school have dealt with it by excluding you for a week so...
RothbardM · 02/10/2018 15:27
"Chris" sound like a prick tbh, all this "back the school" stuff is a load of shite.
campion · 02/10/2018 15:28
You only get one punishment for each offence in a court of law.
You agree with the detention,have a chat about actions and consequences and leave it at that. More is verging on vindictive.
m0therofdragons · 02/10/2018 15:28
I'd follow up with a conversation rather than punishment but within that I'd demonstrate support for the school.
mikado1 · 02/10/2018 15:29
As a teacher, leave it now, dealt with in school but certainly have a chat and reinforce school message and rule, if age appropriate.
fleshmarketclose · 02/10/2018 15:30
School have punished I would only have a chat with the dc regarding their behaviour.
whereiscaroline · 02/10/2018 15:30
Thanks. DP has a way of constantly making me doubt myself and feel like I'm not strict enough. He thinks DS should miss his football practice this week due to receiving the detention.
I think DS is being punished by going to detention. I've text DS to say school have made me aware, to get his head down and improve his day and that we'll chat tonight.
Holidayfromreal · 02/10/2018 15:33
Depends on so much, why did they get the detention? Was it the first time? Did they seem bothered about detention? Was the incident very serious?
If it's a 12 yr old being given a detention for the first time for no homework or lax uniform or something silly then no doesn't even really need mentioning at home.
If it's the third detention in a month for attitude/fighting/bullying etc. Then I think home punishment as well.
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