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To think that this is a poor way to behave in a university lecture?

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malificent7 · 30/09/2018 15:13

Sat in front a group of girls in a lecture...first proper one of the module and I wish I'd said something.
They were laughing about the lecturers , were nattering on about everything and seemed to have a comment for everything the lecturer said.
I took 1 photo of a power point slide and they must have had a 3/4 minute discussion ( pisstake) about it. ( apparently it's fine to take photos of the big screen for notes. I had to check as was feeling paranoid in case I had committed a lecture faux pas.
They were behaving like a bunch of year 9 students win a sweet shop not a group of 18 year olds at uni.
In another lecture a paper aeroplane had been made but thankfully no-one had thrown it.
I am a mature student and therefore a boring old fart. Didn't help that I used to teach. But this is a respected science course and these young people will be treating the vulnerable if they qualify.
So am I a boring old fart and next time should I say something? The lecturer had to tell them to shut up several times.

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IAmAllAsttonishnent · 04/10/2018 10:49

🤔 I called them that whilst describing them to strangers on the internet. Because it’s true and accurately depicts them. I also believe it plays a big part in why they are so deeply vile to many of the others studying on our course.

Quite clearly I would not sit in class or at work and say this as it would be in appropriate but you can’t honestly judge me for thinking negerivley of girls who are bullies (especially good at bullying others over their appearance) that’s ridiculous. You can’t jump into peoples minds and judge their thoughts.

PersisFord · 04/10/2018 11:01

My department gives one lecture a year to medical students, and used to give one to dental students. We have all now refused to lecture the dental students as their behaviour is just AWFUL. The medics are usually quite nice though.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/10/2018 11:27

I'm not judging your thoughts. I'm judging the immature and unpleasant way you talk about people. You sound like a small child, not a student.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/10/2018 11:58

"Amongst the various consequences of this (including an email from my head of department which, frankly, scared me because I was so new to it all), was getting an 'explanation' email from the student in which he told me he had, in his previous job, been in the army and therefore knew all about guns and killing people."

He'd clearly missed the bit of Army training which covered doing as you are bloody well told, @LRDtheFeministDragon!!

I agree with the posters who have said that these students are young adults, not children, and it does them no favours to expect less of them, in terms of behaviour.

At 18, I was a student nurse - back in the days when we did most of our training on the wards, before the advent of degree nursing - so when my classmates and I were the age of these students who can't turn up on time to a lecture, pay proper attention or do the work they are supposed to, we were responsible for the care of some seriously ill patients. We were not solely responsible - there were senior students and trained staff on the wards, but we were expected to do the jobs assigned to us properly, and we would have been hauled over the coals by the dragon of a ward Sister, if we had not turned up on time!!

By the time we reached the third year of training, we were considered sufficiently well trained and responsible to be left in charge of a ward at night, whilst the trained staff were on a break, and to do the drug round, and complicated dressings and treatments.

BanananananaDaiquiri · 04/10/2018 12:35

IAmAllAsttonishnent If mean and critical judgement of others (rightly) appals you, why would you sink to the same level and use derogatory language about others? All that does is prove you are capable of the same appalling behaviour. If you'd simply said something like "some girls were acting like mean, immature bullies and criticising others' appearance" you would have got your point across perfectly well. Instead you've simply proved that you're as judgemental of other people's appearance as those you profess to look down upon.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 04/10/2018 12:43

I teaching creative writing and English literature in a well-ranked department. Yesterday two students told me at the first workshop that they never read and 'didn't like reading

They chose their course wisely, didn't they Soutine.

Not much you can do with idiots like that.

IHeartKingThistle · 04/10/2018 12:44

Oh God @LRDtheFeministDragon I teach GCSE Lit and that's totally how you have to teach that curriculum! What can I do to make it better for the ones who want to go on to study it at a higher level? They get loads of marks at GCSE for opining on what Steinbeck was saying about 1930s America!

In my defence, I have a Linguistics background. Please don't flame me for being an idiot!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 04/10/2018 17:19

You are NOT an idiot IHeart - you are a victim of out shite educational system that values ticking boxes over real education

As is my DIL to be . . . . . . . . .

EmperorTomatoRetchup · 04/10/2018 19:06

Twice last week I was pulled aside by tutors and told I could go as they would just be reading slides to the kids who hadn’t bothered to read them!

I find it very difficult to believe that two or three weeks in the academic year, that tutors are saying 'don't bother coming' to someone, let one anyone who is well prepared and likely to be well informed in class discussions, especially as now attendance at seminars and tutorials is re order and a number of misses usually triggers an intervention.

I don’t think I’m getting £9000 a years worth AT ALL

Ahh someone else who doesn't realise that there isn't spent solely on seminars and lectures and that tuition fees pay towards library facilities, IT, building upkeep, student welfare, security, cleaning and a whole heap of other things that a University needs to operate.

I had one little charmer on a not exactly a laugh a minute, but nevertheless essential 1st year theory and methods course calculate how much (he thought) the course cost him. It was one of three modules he was taking and it had 'cost him £3000' to be taught him things he apparently already knew. I inwardly seethed but said nothing. It was little surprise that he didn't actually know it all already and his essay, along with his maths was extremely shaky.

IAmAllAsttonishnent · 04/10/2018 19:59

@Emperor

Last week was my first week back and it was two seminars for (1 for each module).

They intended to spend it reading through the assessment criteria which had been uploaded online. The gist was ‘No ones bothered to read it so we’re gonna read it to you.’

HerSymphonyAndSong · 04/10/2018 20:56

IAmAllAsttonishnent It was your use of the word “chavvy” that I thought particularly unacceptable

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