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‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.

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TheClaws · 29/09/2018 02:44

From the august Benjamin Franklin. This thread is no. 84.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3369248-Not-knowing-when-the-Dawn-will-come-I-open-every-Door-Trump-No-95

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
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ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 13:56

Deep sigh:
Jake Tapper
@jaketapper
Texas Senate Quinnipiac poll
Cruz over O’Rourke, 54-45
Cruz has 52 - 44 percent favorability rating.
O'Rourke has a divided 45 - 47 percent favorability rating.

QU Poll Release Detail
poll.qu.edu
mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1050337994878713856

Ronald Brownstein
@RonBrownstein
Not just TX and Nevada: challenge for Dems is that if Hispanic turnout is low what’s left to participate usually tilts older & more conservative. Still, party has far more infrastructure to improve that in NV than TX. (link: www.cnn.com/2018/08/07/politics/democrats-hispanics-midterm-elections-fault-lines/index.html cnn.com/2018/08/07/pol…
@SteveKornacki
In Texas, Quinnipiac has Ted Cruz taking 37% of the Hispanic vote. In Nevada, NBC/Marist has Dean Heller getting 38% and NYT/Siena has him getting 39%.
mobile.twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1050346762353950720

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 15:13

This is being best. While the current tone deaf FLOTUS whines about her hurt feelings:
TicToc by Bloomberg
@tictoc
On International #DayOfTheGirl Michelle Obama launches a Global Girls Alliance that will give 100 girls access to education

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 15:25

The best:
TODAY
@TODAYshow
“I’m surprised at how much has changed but how much has not changed. And I think that’s where the fire is coming from. Enough is enough.”
@MichelleObama talks the time women are living in now one year after the #MeToo movement began #DayOfTheGirlTODAY
mobile.twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1050361622559100929/video/1

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 16:47

Yep:
@juliaioffe
David Frum
@davidfrum
When pro-Trump trolls barraged @ioffe with violently misogynistic anti-Semitic images and telephone death threats after truthful reporting on Melania early life in Slovenia, the First Lady said: "I don't control my fans" and "She provoked them."
Quote Tweet
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Melania Trump: "I could say that I'm the most bullied person in the world." (link: abcnews.go.com/Politics/melania-trump-bullied-people-world-distrusts-west-wing/story?id=58419018 abcnews.go.com/Politics/melan…

cozietoesie · 11/10/2018 17:14

For your interest. A Beast piece.

Forget the blue wave

Smile
cozietoesie · 11/10/2018 17:20

Wall St turbulence continues, by the way.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/10/2018 17:45

In the Oval Office with Donald Trump and Kanye West:
twitter.com/olivianuzzi/status/1050425008747675648?s=21

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
cozietoesie · 11/10/2018 17:48

I think it will gain him nought.

lionheart · 11/10/2018 18:11

Lose-Lose with a Loser deal. Smile

cozietoesie · 11/10/2018 18:46

Should we be looking to create a sixth category?

Hurricane Category 6

Roussette · 11/10/2018 18:55

Ye Gods. I've just watched some (or maybe all) of KW and tRump. It could honestly be SNL, it's so bizarre. KW is ill and incoherently rambling. tRump has listened and nodded along whilst looking out of it. A complete carcrash.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/10/2018 19:14

I'm with Randy.

How many calories do you think I just burned by cringing at the tape of Kanye in the Oval Office? 😳😨😰🤯
twitter.com/randyrainbow/status/1050438612053966848?s=21

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 19:21

West, on top of being an ignorant narcissist like Stinky, pretty evidently has serious mental health issues. I've not watched the event as I find them both intolerable. But it is cruel, though not unexpected, of the WH to display him in this way. The Stinker cares nothing for the carnage in his wake, of course, if he thinks he is getting some personal advantage.

lionheart · 11/10/2018 19:24

I can't watch that.

Trump looking to point the finger again.

finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-fed-gone-crazy-215019123.html

lionheart · 11/10/2018 19:33

Trump's comments on this are appalling.

www.justsecurity.org/61001/united-states-fail-duty-warn-jamal-khashoggi-intelligence-directive-191-applies/

lionheart · 11/10/2018 19:36

We've been here before--maybe because the news networks aren't broadcasting the rallies anymore:

www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23721128/fox-and-friends-donald-trump-hurricane-michael/

lionheart · 11/10/2018 19:39

No Saudi ambassador (but obviously they have Kushner).

This is an exchange with someone from the State Department.

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 19:42

Georgia voter rolls. Maddow covered this on the last slot of her excellent programme yesterday. I caught it live as the stream popped up on YouTube. On top of everything else, it made me so mad I couldn't sleep afterwards (hence my flurry of nocturnal posting)

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 20:10

'Let's go to Fox': State Department spokesman creatively grilled over diplomatic vacancies amid disappearance of Saudi journalist
uk.businessinsider.com/jamal-khashoggi-disappearance-saudi-arabia-ambassadors-2018-10?r=US&IR=T
That grilling of Robert Palladino which lion linked to reminded me I'd seen Heather Nauert's less than useless State Dept Press Brief 9/10. Relevant bits only posted here:
QUESTION: I wanted to ask about Jamal Khashoggi.
MS NAUERT: Mm-hmm.
QUESTION: Have you received any response from Saudi Arabia since Secretary Pompeo registered concerns regarding his disappearance?
MS NAUERT: Sure. Let’s start out – first, I’d like to say I imagine that most if not all of you saw the statement that we put out last night. You probably also heard the President’s comments about it yesterday and also the Vice President’s tweet that he put out yesterday.
From the Secretary on down, we have been engaged in this matter. This is something that we’ve been following. I understand that the President intends to speak with the Saudis, so I’m not going to get ahead of that conversation that the President may be having.
In the Secretary’s statement, he said that we’ve seen conflicting reports about his status. We’re not going to make any judgments about what had happened to him. The United States is certainly concerned about his whereabouts. Senior officials at the State Department have spoken with Saudi officials through diplomatic channels about the matter. We call on the Government of Saudi Arabia to conduct a thorough and transparent investigation.
QUESTION: It was nearly a week between his – first reports of his disappearance and that statement from Secretary Pompeo. Why was there such a delay between those two events?
MS NAUERT: So are you assuming that taking time to put out a statement means that the State Department has not been doing anything? Is that your assumption?
QUESTION: What was the State Department doing before the statement came out?
MS NAUERT: The State Department was engaged at the highest levels and also at the working level and having conversations with Saudi Government officials, and I’ll leave it at that.
QUESTION: And then so what was the reason behind that delay in the statement coming out?
MS NAUERT: I wouldn’t – I wouldn’t call it a delay. The United States Government, as we handle situations in other countries as well, sometimes we decide to conduct our conversations and to conduct our diplomacy more privately than publicly because we feel that that could have the best outcome, and I’ll leave it at that.
QUESTION: Has the U.S. seen any evidence that Jamal might be alive?
MS NAUERT: We don’t know what has happened to him. We don’t have any information on that. That’s why I want to say we don’t want to make any judgments about what happened, and we call for a thorough and transparent investigation.
QUESTION: You’ve called for a thorough and transparent inspection from the – investigation from the Saudis, but what about the Turks? Have you asked them for their evidence, if they’ve seen --
MS NAUERT: I don’t have any information on that. I think that would be in the FBI’s lane and local investigators’ lane.
QUESTION: But you said you – they – that on these diplomatic channels you’ve spoken to the Saudis, but what about the Turks?
MS NAUERT: I don’t have any information on that. I would imagine that through the course of our conversations with the Turkish Government – we have many conversations with the Turkish Government – that this has certainly come up.
QUESTION: But that would be – that would be P, yes?
QUESTION: Did the Secretary --
MS NAUERT: Just hold on. Hold on.
QUESTION: On Friday, I saw on the Public Schedule that Mr. Hale had a meeting with the Turkish ambassador here at the State Department.
MS NAUERT: I was out on Friday, so I don’t recall what was on his private – on his public schedule. I’d have to just double-check on that, okay?
QUESTION: Okay. So --
MS NAUERT: I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I’m just not aware of it if it did. I was out on Friday.
QUESTION: Since this happened on Turkish soil, wouldn’t speaking to the Turks and being part of their investigation be absolutely key to --
MS NAUERT: I did not say that we have not spoken with the Turkish Government. I just don’t have any information on it at this moment. Okay? If I have anything in addition for you, I’ll let you know.
QUESTION: Hi. Can I ask a follow-up on Jamal Khashoggi?
MS NAUERT: Sure.
QUESTION: So the UK foreign secretary has said that if the reports are correct, “We will treat the incident seriously.” I wanted to ask why can’t – or why has not Secretary Pompeo said that if the reports are true and the Saudis, our allies, turn out to be cold-blooded killers, that there will be repercussions?
MS NAUERT: I think that would be entirely a hypothetical question, and so if the Brits decide to comment that way, they’re more than welcome to do so. But we’re going to wait until the facts come out, and we call again for a thorough and transparent investigation.
QUESTION: Will there be repercussions?
MS NAUERT: Carol, I’m not going to get ahead or assume that anything happened. We’re calling for a thorough and transparent investigation. And again, let me say this one more time: I’ll leave it at that. I don’t have anything more for you on this today.
QUESTION: Can you just confirm if it was Pompeo?
QUESTION: Does the Secretary plan to speak himself with his counterpart in Saudi Arabia, and did he raise this question when he spoke with the crown prince last week?
MS NAUERT: I can confirm --
QUESTION: There was a readout --
MS NAUERT: I can confirm that the Secretary has had phone conversations, but I don’t have any of the details. And some of those would just be private diplomatic conversations, which I will not be able to read out. Last time I’ll say this: I don’t have anything more for you on this today. If and when I have more, I will bring it to you. Okay?
QUESTION: Is it okay? Can I have one more follow-up on Khashoggi, please?
MS NAUERT: Sir, I don’t have anything --
QUESTION: It’s in relation to what you just said.
MS NAUERT: I don’t have anything more for you on that.
QUESTION: Let me just --
MS NAUERT: When I do, I would be happy to give it to you.
QUESTION: Let me just ask my question, and you decide if you don’t want --
MS NAUERT: Okay, I’ve not met you before, but go right ahead. Welcome to the State Department. And tell me your publication.
QUESTION: Fadi Mansour with Al Jazeera. I’ve been covering this place for 10 years now, thank you very much.
MS NAUERT: Pardon me?
QUESTION: I’ve been covering this place for 10 years. I don’t come every day because I cover other places.
QUESTION: Thank you. So the fact that you called on the Saudis to carry an investigation, is the State Department assuming that Saudi Arabia is responsible for the whereabout of Khashoggi?
MS NAUERT: We’re not assuming anything. Only because it was their consulate, we’re asking them to conduct an investigation.
QUESTION: Thank you

cozietoesie · 11/10/2018 20:16

Thanks, mimi.

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 20:21

lion, maybe his f and f telecon was scheduled to distract from Michelle's appearance on 'The Today Show'. Ms. Ruhle thought soGrin :

'I get it big guy... doing a phoner...trying to distract...
I’ll get the highlights- not gonna miss this
HAPPY #DayOfTheGirl @MichelleObama #DayOfTheGirlTODAY'

ohmymimi · 11/10/2018 20:29

Thanks for that Ted Lieu piece, lion. I have a soft spot for him + his Twitter feed is good, and he doesn't seem to indulge in bullshittery