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‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.

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TheClaws · 29/09/2018 02:44

From the august Benjamin Franklin. This thread is no. 84.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3369248-Not-knowing-when-the-Dawn-will-come-I-open-every-Door-Trump-No-95

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
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borntobequiet · 09/10/2018 11:28

Well I had a cup of coffee, it was good advice Damn!

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 11:54

The Stinker lauded 'stop and frisk' in his speech to the IACP yesterday.
(They gave him a standing ovation.)
edition.cnn.com/2018/10/08/politics/donald-trump-police-chiefs-florida/index.html

mic.com/articles/154855/this-is-what-stop-and-frisk-is-and-why-it-s-unconstitutional#.hSrCMHk0T

'The long read.
How 20 years of stop and search has widened America’s racial divide.
A police push to seize guns from cars ended in disproportionate numbers of black people getting arrested for minor crimes.'
By James Forman Jr
www.theguardian.com/news/2018/oct/09/how-20-years-of-stop-and-search-has-widened-americas-racial-divide

Gumpendorf · 09/10/2018 12:04

To support the comment on NAFTA only being about shareholder value. It's not the only policy.

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
PerkingFaintly · 09/10/2018 12:05

Don't worry, judicial system doesn't actually punish people for minor crimes like carrying guns when they shouldn't.

Or... maybe that's just if the culprits are close Trump advisors and former Breitbart editors like Sebastian Gorka, and instead of carrying the gun in a car they're trying to take it onto an aircraft.

Judge dismisses gun charge against Trump national security adviser
thinkprogress.org/gorka-charge-dismissed-480115a83610/

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 12:18

unorthodox strategies Hmm
Rosalind Helderman
@PostRoz
After selling off his father’s properties, Trump embraced unorthodox strategies to expand his empire via @Fahrenthold@OconnellPostbiz
mobile.twitter.com/PostRoz/status/1049425055661330432
Robert Maguire
@RobertMaguire_
Weird. Trump owes $50 million to a Delaware corporation with almost no paper trail called Chicago Unit Acquisition, who's address is Trump Tower in NYC
David Fahrenthold
@Fahrenthold
Well, it's not a bank. Public records in Delaware (where it's registered) don't list any other loans it's made.
It has a pretty thin paper trail, but govt. docs show the company's headquarters is 725 Fifth Avenue, NYC. 4/
mobile.twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1049396668418920449/photo/1

Mr F.'s full thread:
NEW: This story touches on one of the biggest mysteries in @realDonaldTrump's finances -- which only gets more mysterious, the more i dig into it. The mystery is called "Chicago Unit Acquisition, LLC" 1/
Nobody outside Trump Org. had heard of Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC until @realDonaldTrump submitted his financial disclosures as a candidate. They showed he owed more than $50M to an entity with that name. 2/
That's a big loan, even for a real-estate developer like @realDonaldTrump. So what is this entity that the president owes more than $50M? 3/
Well, it's not a bank. Public records in Delaware (where it's registered) don't list any other loans it's made.
It has a pretty thin paper trail, but govt. docs show the company's headquarters is 725 Fifth Avenue, NYC. 4/
...Which is Trump Tower. 5/
In fact, Chicago Unit Acquisition is owned by @realDonaldTrump and managed (now) by Eric Trump. Which means Donald Trump owes more than $50 Million to...himself. Why?6/
As far as I know, @realDonaldTrump has only talked about this loan once, to the @nytimes in 2016. He said it was a loan on his Chicago tower, which he bought back from the lenders. “I have the mortgage. That is all there is. Very simple. I am the bank.”7/
A change in his business model is part of the reason Donald Trump has fewer recent dealings with Wall Street.Trump Boasts of Rapport With Wall St., but the Feeling Is Not Quite Mutual nytimes.com
But which loan is he talking about? We checked both of the publicly listed loans on the Chicago tower – a $640M loan from Deutsche Bank, and a $130M “mezzanine loan” from other lenders. And...8/
...And neither one appears to have been sold, to @realDonaldTrump or anyone. Both, in fact, appear to have been paid off and cancelled in 2012. 9/
So...I know more about this debt than I used to. But I still don't understand it. If you know something about this loan, or about why @RealDonaldtrump
would see an advantage in owing himself $ (as opposed to just paying off the loan)...I'm at [email protected] END/
mobile.twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1049394785822347265

lionheart · 09/10/2018 13:12

Love that video ohmy. Smile

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 13:23

Done with his collusion, but it was McGahn and SmugConnell who worked it:
'Trump’s successful neutering of the FBI’s Kavanaugh investigation has scary implications.
A proof of concept for further erosion of the FBI.'
www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/10/8/17947614/kavanaugh-fbi-investigation?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 13:23

It really lifted me today, lionSmile

lionheart · 09/10/2018 13:40

I needed that too.

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 15:19

Brett Kavanaugh has been libeled and slandered. For that the law offers redress. He should sue Ford and the Washington Post. For $20 million. Each.
Of course he should. The discovery phase would be interesting, would it not?
Of course he will not. Neither he, nor the WH, would let him risk an FBI interview, would they. Wonder why?

(This article is hysterical tosh, btw)
The Federalist
@FDRLST
Brett Kavanaugh has been libeled and slandered. For that the law offers redress. He should sue Ford and the Washington Post. For $20 million. Each.
thefederalist.com/2018/10/06/brett-kavanaugh-sue-christine-blasey-ford-wapo-defamation/

AcrossthePond55 · 09/10/2018 15:29

I put it on mute, but Kav looked like a petulant 3 year old when Scrotus was apologizing 'for the nation' (Fuck that!). His look was exactly the look one sibling gives another when that sibling is being told off by their parent. Especially in the situation where that sibling has lied to get the other in trouble.

The look on Justice Bader Ginsburg's face was priceless. She managed to keep her face pretty expressionless but you could tell she was furious. Kav is in for a surprise when he tussles with the Notorious RBG!

BTW if you haven't seen the documentary 'RBG' about her life, I highly recommend it. What an amazing woman.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/10/2018 15:31

Just got a news flash (CNN via iPhone) that Nikki Haley has resigned from the UN.

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 15:40

Because he is such an expert in those areasHmm
Peter Baker
@peterbakernyt
White House
@PressSec
confirms that Trump will have lunch with Kanye West: "Topics of discussions will include manufacturing resurgence in America, prison reform, how to prevent gang violence, and what can be done to reduce violence in Chicago.”
mobile.twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1049632195621605377

As they are both ignorant narcissists, bloated self-regard will be the main dish on the menu.

The first comment on the thread nails it:
La Condesa
@lacondesaAF
Replying to
@peterbakernyt, and @PressSec
Trump only sees black people as athletes and celebrities. It doesn’t even occur to him that there are black people that are experts in these fields. But let’s bring on the bipolar, reality TV star rapper to solve these pressing problems.

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 15:43

Gosh, Across. Sudden or what?

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 15:48

💖RBG - Cent' anni🍸

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 15:53

Haley - wonder if the question is what is she up to, or what has she been up to?

ohmymimi · 09/10/2018 15:56

Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs
Many in White House in the dark on WHY exactly she’s doing this, and they’re asking themselves why now, just before the midterm elections.

cozietoesie · 09/10/2018 15:56

Interesting - especially for the embedded link on 'Fancy Bear'.

No evidence. Yet.

cozietoesie · 09/10/2018 16:00

Try 2.

No evidence. Yet.

lionheart · 09/10/2018 16:18

Wonder what she has lined up as her next move.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/10/2018 16:31

Who knows. But I'll bet there's more to her resignation than meets the eye. Supposedly she 'wants more time off' and he's praising her to the skies, which is usually combo Trump-speak for "Oh shit! They caught me, better get while the gettins' good!".

cozietoesie · 09/10/2018 16:33

She was governor to one of the Carolinas wasn't she?

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