To think that if you behave like a twat and then need rescuing, you should be charged for it.

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Just watched an episode of 'Saving lives at seas' I'd recorded.

Some twat decided it would be 'an adventure' to set out in a life raft, live it rough for a while, then get washed back in to shore by the tide.

I know it's not practical, but is it just me that thinks these stupid fuckers should have to pay for their actions.

I agree. Can we add people who get too drunk and need picking up by an ambulance to that list please

What's to flame? It's literally indefenable.

And add rock climbers who break their legs. Motorcyclists who pulverise their hips. Footballers who wrench their knees. Fishermen who get hooks in their hands. Irresponsible cooks who get burns off the oven...

Hold on! There's no one left!

People that go up mountains in unsuitable clothing taking up mountain rescues time , recourses and money fall under this too.

There have been a few instances on saving lives at sea. They are a volunteer service saving people from one of the most untedictiable places.

I think idiots should get charged..not only do they put themselves at risk but the rescue teams as.well

No, accident happen. But stupid fuckers who do things that can only ever turn out badly should pay for their actions.

Absolutely agree with OP, if you risk assessed it the expected outcome for the list Disquiet gave would not be something that would require a massive rescue, however setting up Ben Nevis with trainers, a cardigan and no water, yes. Going out to sea in a £5.99 inflatable unicorn boat- yes

Yes, I agree. Anyone who puts themselves or others at risk by their own behaviour should pay to be rescued/helped. That goes for drunks, druggies, mountaineers, pot-holers, cavers, lone yachtsmen, etc., etc.

People who go abroad with no travel insurance and then get ill or injured.

Also, people who go for cosmetic surgery abroad, it all goes wrong, come home and the NHS are left to pick up the pieces.

Do you think these people will volunteer to pay? I guarantee that getting money from them will be more hassle and cost more than it achieves.

People who are responsible and who have been caught out/have bad luck will hesitate to call for help and they will suffer.

Deciding between those two groups will take appeals and committees and again costs which won’t be covered by the feckless morons who will evade payment...or end up with a £5 a week nominal payment plan.

Crowdfunding on social media is the new alternative to buying travel insurance or pet insurance isn’t it?

The RNLI made over 190 million last year so idiots at sea are well covered.

Jack Dee did a sketch on this

Yup, I agree. I am very rural, steep Scottish hills. The amount of times mountain rescue are out over something stupid. The most recent in my mind being four women, in February just before the bad snow but still very cold. They were wearing jeans and hoodies, no map, a lot of booze and set off at 4pm. One saw sense and turned back. The others fell out and got separated at various points. The one who turned back called mountain rescue. Various farmers etc out for hours looking for them. No torches either. The mind boggles.

Welsh How!!

How? Various ways, this is just England and Wales btw it was 202 million. Scotland and Ireland are separate charity numbers.

apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=209603&SubsidiaryNumber=0

Ben Nevis with trainers, a cardigan and no water,
Trainers is quite sensible... when we went up, people were in flipflops, piggy backing toddlers. I kid you not, and I'm talking about near the foot but a considerable way up.

Disquieted your logic is baffling. To you cooking (a basically unavoidable daily activity so you can eat and live) and setting off to sea in a life raft for a bit of fun see equally irresponsible behaviours?.... Right.

Someone would have to make the call though and there would be cases that are borderline. What if someone just forgot some of the equipment they need? If some makes it clear they don't have the means or inclination to pay would you just leave them to die?
I think it's important that all emergency services help everyone, even idiots.

The problem is that nice normal auntie Beryl would not want to make a fuss or get in trouble or be charged (even though she wouldn’t be as she is genuine). So she wouldn’t be rescued and would die.

I would rather rescue 100 Cheeky Fuckers plus Beryl than 100 Cheeky fuckers and not Beryl who died because she was too scared to call.

Same as my logic for being anti death penalty. I would rather feed and house 100 people at public expense for life than kill someone who was wrongly convicted.

Ive got it! What if, instead of getting charged, if you get rescued you have to do a certain number of hours volunteer work for the rescue service that helped you? Doesn’t have to be the dangerous stuff, could be washing kit or making tea, but it would be a repayment for service that nearly everyone could do, and should not begrudge when they’ve been saved

My brother and his friend rowed up a sub-river of the Mersey in an inflatable dinghy to go to the chippy.

It was they thought, the fasted route because it was 5 miles away by road.

They got their chips, ate them and rowed home. They were about 15 the little shits. My poor Mum was terrified because a neighbour saw them and said "I've just seen your Joe and Billy rowing down the river..."

it was midwinter!

People who enjoy the outside (swim, kayak, cycle) are sometimes considered reckless by others but then sofa dwellers cost the nhs a fortune. I think disquieted was making the point that one persons idea of accountability is another persons idea of ‘just a lifestyle’.

Most of the people I know who work on local mountain/sea rescue as volunteers were also the sort of person likely to need rescuing because they enjoy the sort of activity that occasions rescues.

Sifting to find and tackle irresponsible idiots is like much of life whether it be ignorant dangerous parking, driving, lack of recycling, litter dropping, failing to pick up dog shit...hard to tackle and consequences usually affect whole population

And add rock climbers who break their legs. Motorcyclists who pulverise their hips. Footballers who wrench their knees. Fishermen who get hooks in their hands. Irresponsible cooks who get burns off the oven.

To be fair none of those listed are outrageously dangerous. If you go out to see in a raft you're asking for trouble.

Can we also add smokers and over eaters?