Instamums (continued)

[MrBull]

Not a TAAT

Just had a look at mod for the first time in ages. I notice several weeks of no children in the posts except their backs. In the least patronising way possible, well done her. I gather she is disclosing ads better too so credit where it is due.

Sm post is really unpleasant and a sweeping statement - as others have pointed out the irony in it all is huge. I will say she did a very lovely thing for a friend of mine once for no reward other than to be a decent human. If you're reading this though, fashion is subjective and there will be people who don't like your jumpers, take that side of it on the chin. We'd all look the same if we had the same taste!

I think that's why the post from SM irked me.
It's fashion.
People are allowed to not like fashion.
Her sales must show her that there is a minority who don't, so why the need for the public plea to show admiration?

It seems they are good quality, of thry were ethically sourced and I treated myself I might if she had a plain one or a teeny logo. I just can’t ever feel comfortable with a big announcement on my boobs, whether that’s ‘mother’ or ‘guns n roses’.

@ivegotatheoryitcouldbebunnies1 Mumsnet don't control what's said on Instagram though. On that post, SM could actually delete the comments that call us c*nty mums, sad old mares etc etc. It would be up to her to moderate her own 'forum' (in which she has more comments that the actual mn thread) in a way she deems fit. She's choosing not to and she's not alone, many other instamums do the same. Which is fine, but they need to own that decision and expect us to pick up on the double standards. In some cases, they often only delete and block the criticism levelled at them.

The only criticism I have with MNHQ is like @EeebyMum picked up on. The sweater thread, the source of much of today's discussion and the reason for SM's post, hasn't had any warnings as far as I can see. It seems there may be particular posters on this thread that mumsnet are watching more keenly! Who knows why.

I don't know why some of that's in bold, I think it's because I starred the swearies!

SM has disabled comments on that post - I wonder why, they all appeared to be fawning, maybe to limit the amount of unnessessary hatred aimed at MN ie her target audience and probably half her customers.

All comments deleted and turned off on that SM post. There were a few comments, polite ones too, suggesting not all forums are bad, but I suppose SM is like the smiling mummy and just doesn’t want any discussion that isn’t in full agreement with her own views. It’s sad.

There is an awful lot of vitriol on this thread. Genuine question - if you don’t like what they’re posting, why bother reading them?

There are literally thousands of accounts that don’t interest me but its their social media account so they can really post what they want, surely?

Great question Shirley.

If they hate mumsnet so much and we are all lazy bitch morons, then why are they bothered what we think 🤔

She did reply to a few before she closed the comments.

I didn't think any of the comments were distasteful or rude.

Who knows.

Despite not actually being mentioned for a while apparently we're still stalking and bullying she who can't be named.

And this comment:
"We just don’t marry some prick who works at a bank because he’ll make our lives easier (even though we could, it’s easy to do that man, you ain’t special- you just made yourself available) We just don’t give a shit about that. And we don’t leave our dreams unrealised. So laugh. Laugh at me. I laugh at you for every wasted moment you spend on an internet forum instead of fighting for something worthwhile or creating something interesting. I’d rather fail until the day I die than give up and be boring."

is deeply unpleasant.

There were definitely some rude ones about mumsnet users.

@glagdy that could be about any forum.

@MrBull - but that's ok though, right? Even MN agree when they delete comments of defence.

I did just have a look and I was surprised by how many brave comments supporting mumsnet and forums there were. And a few accounts that clearly run their own forums (baby loss etc) were a bit put out. I imagine she had no idea the impact her choice of words would have.

@fruitshot erm, she specifically mentions mn.

"I don’t know. There are certain sites I refuse to click on and Mumsnet is one of them. Giving them page views garners them money via advertisers. I refuse to be involved. People send me screenshots, that’s all i see."

If they hate mumsnet so much and we are all lazy bitch morons, then why are they bothered what we think

I guess if there were anonymous comments on an Internet forum about me I would be upset too

I think she did the right thing deleting all the comments. I prefer that to when they only delete the ones they don't agree with. I wonder if she didn't realise herself the initial background of the original poster. Hopefully that's an end to the nonsense though.

#unrealisedreams
Great on a jumper!

fruitshot it was in reference to MN, the comments said it. I wonder how it was so acceptable to spend time on MN and get paid for it. She really is wallowing in self pity

I don't think (not on this thread) there were any derogatory personal comments made about the woman behind SM, shirley.

Instagram is 90% posh women thinking they are the first to ever have children.
I will never understand why they put themselves and their kids out for public consumption and then are shocked when people comment. Not everyone is going to agree.
Does the smugness come as standard or do the instamums have to go on a course.

@sunshinep there are courses. And jumpers soon available.

@shirleyphallas a woman struggling to conceive started a thread not liking slogan jumpers with mama etc and some people didn’t like them. Lots did. That’s not a personal attack on the woman behind the brand.

I really wish I hadn’t seen the SM drama. I used to like the brand when it was small and niche. I’d gone off it anyway when I realised the link with Instamums. I don’t follow SM (or any others) and I don’t read her blogs.
It was incredibly nasty to write a post like that in response to someone suffering infertility disliking the brand.
What has hugely disappointed me is the number of completely unrelated brands I like who have liked the post: Neom, Turtledovelondon, even my bloody milliner. I’ve unfollowed a few smaller brands I buy from occasionally after seeing them support this bitching. I have time to spend on a forum and I also have cash to spend so perhaps they should think about that before pressing like.