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My same-sex girlfriend *maybe* wants me to avoid family event because she’s not out to older aunt. AIBU?

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charge282 · 27/09/2018 16:18

Hi all, just looking for some advice.

My girlfriend and I are in a same sex relationship and have been for 8 years.

We are fully open to everyone in both families - except my partner’s elderly aunt. This aunt basically part-raised my DP, and they were close, but aunt is very old and lives 50 miles away. She is quite traditional and the topic has just never needed to come up. Aunt knows me, is very nice to me - - and surely must suspect a bit - - .

My DP sees her fairly often, me less so. When we see her together it’s always in a context where the issue of who is with whom isn’t relevant (eg tea and cakes on a Sunday afternoon).

Everyone else in DP’s family knows we are together (parents, etc) and are extremely supportive. But there is a bit of an unspoken rule that we won’t mention to Auntie X that we are together. Nobody ever suggested this (eg GF never said “Don’t tell auntie”, MIL never said “Pretend to be straight”). It just happened. (I can honestly say that this has never really bothered me and I have just gone along with it, as it’s never caused us any material problems - until now that is.)

Fast forward to now and it’s about to become an issue. PILs kindly treat us all to a family holiday between Christmas and New Year (UK city break-type thing). Usually it is PILs, us two, GF’s DB and his wife and their one year old DD. I really really look forward to these as we all get on so well. Recently we were both invited to the 2018 one, and the date is in the diary.

Auntie has also been invited along this year. Fine by me, it’s up to PILs. Also I quite like Auntie X, she is a bit traditional but she is also good fun. MIL clearly doesn’t think it will matter that we are all there together, as when she invited me she said “Auntie X is coming” in the same message and nothing more was said. Me and DP are discreet anyway in front of family, we don’t kiss and cuddle or anything. In previous years other family members have brought along friends etc – the family is very sociable, so it’s totally normal for people who aren’t partners to come along and for this set-up not to be questioned.

My gf, however, is now freaking out. She said that “there might be a problem as Auntie X is invited”, and said that we (me and GF) need to discuss it in the coming days. I think she’s going to tell me that she doesn’t want to come out to Auntie, and that if we go we’ll have to sleep in separate rooms or something (not really possible as there are already plenty of people going). I have a horrible feeling she’s going to tell me she wants me to stay away.

Any advice? The following thoughts are floating around my head…

It’s their family, not mine. At the end of the day, I guess I have to let DP decide for that reason?
On the one hand I sort of understand – it’s something a lot of gay people have thought from time to time. I’ve stayed in the closet in some circumstances before so I’d be being hypocritical if I said everybody had to be out and proud all the time. Sometimes it is just easier to not take the risk and maybe this is one of those times.
The thought of not going, though, makes me sad, because we all love going on this trip and I feel a close bond with them all. I would be so upset if DP goes on this and leaves me behind, I really would be. The image of everybody else (including DP’s brother’s wife) all being able to go because they’re straight and I’m not actually makes me want to cry.
Also, auntie is in excellent health and isn’t mega old by modern standards. She could well live another 15 years. If we ever decide to get married or have kids, what will happen then? Will DP want us to put it off indefinitely?

Thanks for reading.

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charge282 · 27/09/2018 16:18

(I have changed some very insignificant details to avoid being outing.)

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teaandtoast · 27/09/2018 16:23

I bet she knows anyway. 8 years is a long time.

One solution might be for you and gf to have a twin room, if gf is so worried?

ElspethFlashman · 27/09/2018 16:25

Well the problem clearly isn't the Aunt. It's your partner.

The chances are she would never ask any questions and be told no lies. She certainly might not even blink at you sharing a bed - women share a bed for space reasons all the time!

ElspethFlashman · 27/09/2018 16:27

What age is she? You say she's very old, but then that she may live another 15 years???

raisinsraisins · 27/09/2018 16:29

If she thinks that you and GF are just good friends, then what would be wrong with you sharing a room on holiday? Like teaandtoast says, you could have twin beds.

charge282 · 27/09/2018 16:30

@ElspethFlashman Sorry yes that was confusing. She's 84 so she's old but she's very fit and never has health problems. She's the sort of person you can imagine reaching 100 if you get me?

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agnurse · 27/09/2018 16:31

It's quite possible that she already knows. My mother has a cousin who's gay and for many years it was an "open secret" (i.e. he wasn't out but everyone knew).

Aquamarine1029 · 27/09/2018 16:34

Your partner is being ridiculous. Trust me, Auntie isn't stupid. She's a lot smarter and has more wisdom than the lot of you put together. You can't live to the age of 84 and not be able to handle things. Tell your partner it's time to stop this nonsense.

ItsJustTheOneSwanActually · 27/09/2018 16:37

I agree that Auntie probably knows. And that women share rooms for loads of reasons. I really hope you get to go.

HolesinTheSoles · 27/09/2018 16:40

I don't see why good friends can't share a room. I have a (straight, single) female friend who always invites her (straight, single) female friend to family events like this because they're very close and all the other adults are married so she likes to have someone to slope off with when everyone else has.

I think your DP is probably being paranoid if aunty is like a parent to her she doesn't want to feel rejected if aunty disapproves. Aunty probably knows anyway but if she's traditional just thinks the done thing is to never mention it.

WorraLiberty · 27/09/2018 16:40

Wait and see what your GF says first. There's no point in stressing until you've had the conversation.

Is there a reason why it has to be discussed over the coming days, rather than immediately?

manicinsomniac · 27/09/2018 16:42

I don't know what you can do personally.

But I would tell your partner that it's not okay for her to treat you like that (if indeed she is planning to - she might want to talk because she's decided to tell Auntie outright that you are her partner). Auntie doesn't really need to be told anything one or the other, I wouldn't have thought. She can draw her own conclusions, ask questions or avoid them - it's up to her but her (assumed) feelings shouldn't dictate your relationship with partner.

I share a bed with ordinary friends fairly regularly. It doesn't necessarily mean anything about anyone's sexuality. Attending a family holiday would perhaps be more of a giveaway, I'd have thought but then not many people regularly meet their friends extended family members anyway so the chances are Auntie knows already.

charge282 · 27/09/2018 16:48

Thanks everybody. The twin room idea is a good one. I would be happy for the fact we were in a twin room to be shoehorned into conversation with Auntie, so that she was definitely aware. It would be a bit weird, but if it made DP happy and meant we could move past it and all have a nice time then so be it. I think I'll suggest that

@WorraLiberty We have been busy at work for the last couple of days and she mentioned it early in the morning. So we agreed to chat it through at a better time. You're right about waiting, but I can sense instinctively that it's going to be an issue so I want to be prepared.

@Aquamarine1029 I appreciate that - you're right, and I think I need to be brave on this one!

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LydiaLunch7 · 27/09/2018 16:50

I would just tell your DP everything you wrote after:

The following thoughts are floating around my head…

And see what she has to say.

ilovemylurcher · 27/09/2018 16:53

I think Auntie probably knows too.
And actually, she may be offended if your DP insists you stay away, as she will probably realise that it's because of her and her supposed inability to accept your relationship (which she probably has accepted- I'm sure she wants her DNiece- and you- to be happy).
I would be really offended if my DS did this if he was in a same sex relationship because he thought he may upset me (he wouldn't).

londonrach · 27/09/2018 16:54

Aunty knows. Shes 84 and see it all believe me!

Loopytiles · 27/09/2018 16:55

Hopefully you’re worrying unecessarily, but if your DP wants you not to go or have separate rooms then she’s being unreasonable!

Age isn’t an excuse for homophobia.

DunkerOfSussex · 27/09/2018 16:55

Normally I'd say it's really up to her if she isn't ready to out herself, but the truth is if there are already children involved and everyone knows... someone will tell aunty. The one year old will be talking soon and will obviously talk about how you two live together or refer to you as partner. Best do it now and get it over with,

Undercoverbanana · 27/09/2018 17:00

Auntie will have known plenty of gay people in her lifetime. It wasn’t invented in 1984. She probably sussed the pair of you years ago and wonders why no-one talks about it.

safetyfreak · 27/09/2018 17:00

Funnily enough I bet Auntie already knows, from what you wrote it sounds like shes on the ball so to speak.

LifesABeachCoaster · 27/09/2018 17:02

Hi OP, I suspect she probably knows but this doesn't really solve the issue.

I think you need to prepare for the eventuality that DP does ask you not to come. I would be upset and hopefully her family would disagree with her decision. However do not panic yet. Maybe she just wants to discuss things like sleeping arrangements.

RangeRider · 27/09/2018 17:05

Auntie will definitely know! My aunt (81/82?) guessed about me and she's not seen me since just after I came out (and it was at a funeral so not exactly an outing situation!). She said that she & my cousin had guessed from what (little) was said & not said over the years Grin
She won't care and if you don't go she'll probably ask DP if you've split up or something!

VickyEadie · 27/09/2018 17:05

Just do it. What's the worst that can happen?

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/09/2018 17:05

Loopy tiles
No age isn’t an excuse for homophobia but Auntie X grew up in a time and lived a fair few years as a young adult seeing males being imprisoned for having sex with one another. Same sex relationships were very much whispered about even when I was a child and I’m decades younger.

I agree, it is highly likely she knows. What would happen if the two of you married??

SassitudeandSparkle · 27/09/2018 17:07

Why don't you wait to hear what your DP has to say?