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Macron is a hero AIBU

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Hazardswan · 22/09/2018 16:29

Obviously he isn't always a hero and you don't always get the hero you want or need. However a hero he is for the simple fact he had the honesty to state the obvious that the British people were lied to in the run up to the referendum.

If he was a full time hero he should have added more details of the current fuckery that is ongoing but alas he was only brave for a moment.

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1tisILeClerc · 22/09/2018 17:31

He has some very forward looking ideas, which make him unpopular with quite a few in France. I think he was pushing for good schooling, housing etc for all children up to about 12 years old at least across the EU. To make people more inclusive. I really hope he gets somewhere with this, not least because I live in France.
If he's on MN, can you cut some of the red tape please!

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Hazardswan · 22/09/2018 17:39

He cares about inclusivity and children?

Aww. Hero. Our government likes creating poverty....not heros.

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EthelThePiratesDaughter · 22/09/2018 18:36

YABU OP.

It's far too soon to be judging Macron as a hero.

But like LeClerc I also live in France and I hope his reforms are successful.

ForalltheSaints · 22/09/2018 18:49

I should declare an interest in that one of my French relatives was one of the other ten presidential candidates.

Even with this, his ideas are much better than the choice we have in the UK between rabid right wingers who will make us all poorer, or nasty left-wingers who want to almost deny women as a gender and are intolerant of any dissent.

I like in particular the ban on the use of mobile phones in schools.

As for his comments about Boris and others in the Leave campaign, he was spot on.

hotblacktea · 22/09/2018 19:01

i'm with you op, quite like him and the hard truths he tells
hope he succeeds in france

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Hazardswan · 22/09/2018 19:04

Well if there's a proper honest hero who saves the day then fair enough I'm BU.
Till then that act of honesty, not the hero we want or need but the hero we have? Surely it's Macron?

As an aside Macron makes me think macaroons and they are tasty.

I thought the hard left were denying women as a sex not gender?

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EthelThePiratesDaughter · 22/09/2018 19:09

Don't get me wrong, I think I like him but it's too soon to judge his performance.

Justin Trudeau seems like a pretty good looking leader. And I'm quite impressed with Jacinda Ardern.

APlaceInTheWinter · 22/09/2018 19:10

I think he's an unprincipled charlatan and his wife was a teacher who abused her position to seduce a pupil. I don't see anything heroic about him.

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Hazardswan · 22/09/2018 19:23

More unprincipled then following a non binding referendum where blantent lies were told?

My bar is set low for hero's at the moment but Justin misses a sparkle for me and he hasn't publicly declared any brexit liars as having lied.

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Hazardswan · 23/09/2018 08:38

And is just me but does Justin look sweaty all the time? (Love green eyes tho...10/10 for the colour)

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Hazardswan · 23/09/2018 08:39

This is a man who sweats less because he tells the truth.

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BuntyII · 23/09/2018 08:43

He is indeed a sexy hero. Why does France get him and we get Theresa May Confused actually thinking about it, have we ever had an attractive PM? This is where the country is going wrong IMO.

kalidasa · 23/09/2018 08:43

I think he's a jumped up little wannabe dictator. Totally ghastly and I prefer ALL our politicians to him. Ugh.

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 23/09/2018 09:13

A wannabe dictator freely voted for by two thirds of the electorate? He's failed at the first hurdle then.

ManicUnicorn · 23/09/2018 10:25

I think a lot of people fancied John Major.

kalidasa · 23/09/2018 10:46

I didn't say he was a dictator, but that he'd like to be one. Two thirds of the electorate did not vote for him, participation rates were very low in the last presidential election. French politics is much less healthy than ours at the moment.

MongerTruffle · 23/09/2018 11:19

participation rates were very low in the last presidential election
The turnout for the second round was 74.6%, so 49.3% of the French electorate voted for him (29.2% of the British electorate voted for Theresa May last year). The last time the UK had a general election with a turnout that high was 1992.

Hippyshubby · 23/09/2018 11:28

YANBU and yes, he is somewhat easy on the eye (In a totally bisexual way only GrinWink)

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 23/09/2018 11:34

French politics is much less healthy than ours at the moment.

Bahahahahahaha this is so painfully untrue it's hilarious.

I can't wait to be eligible to vote in French elections and have a vote that actually counts for something.

Sorry kalidasa but you're talking absolute horse shit.

kalidasa · 23/09/2018 11:36

The turnout was the lowest since 1969. Presidential elections are of course not general elections - though the turn out in the subsequent GE was also a historic low. In addition, 8% of those who voted in the prudential election voted blanc and 3% spoilt their ballots, both also unusually high. DH, like many who voted for Mélenchon in the first round, voted blanc in round 2. Macron's approval ratings are now even lower than Hollande's were at the same point.

Agustarella · 23/09/2018 11:37

I can't get past his union-busting and housing benefit cutting activities, and his de haut en bas manner of speaking to ordinary French people has rightly caused indignation. But, he was right to call out the lies of the Leave campaign - there's no point standing politely and ineffectually by while Britain drives off a cliff, taking a large part of the French economy with it.

kalidasa · 23/09/2018 11:37

Ethel I'm afraid I'll also be able to vote in the next French presidential election so I guess we'll be cancelling each other out!

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 23/09/2018 11:38

If that means you're planning on voting for the Front National I wouldnt go round boasting about that. Confused

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 23/09/2018 11:40

From my point of view one of the best things about the French system is that is has inbuilt safeguards against extremism. The French might like to moan (they always do, no matter who is in power) but they are unlikely to ever find themselves in as much merde as we are right now thanks to our batshit crazy political system which has effectively put the loonies in charge of the asylum.

kalidasa · 23/09/2018 11:45

I would certainly never vote for the FN but I would never vote for Macron either.