To ask why people are so critical/judgemental of vegans?

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Just wondering why?

I love being a vegan. I miss meat but I enjoy being an awkward bitch more and preaching to my animal hating friends 😂

This truly isn't a vegan thing, it is that culturally, the British despise those who they perceive as puritans. Many people would feel deprived without meat, eggs and dairy, and so they perceive those who voluntarily deprive themselves day in day out as ascetic, and therefore, suspect.

See also, to varying degrees, teetotallers, those with religious beliefs of the "god-bothering" rather than social ritual variety, frugal people, socialists, people who exercise, people who work too hard, people who are too houseproud...

By the way, I am not a vegan and in fact feel an involuntary inner sneer at several of the examples above. And I know I'm not alone.

Urghhh no one cares OP. This is such a non issue. There are real problems in the world you know - what someone chooses to eat, which organic tofu to choose really doesn’t matter. As long as you can survive on it and your getting the nutrients you need no one cares.

Dialsmavis: this is not correct
Humans need b12 and it is easiest to get from meat and dairy - animals might be supplemented but what do you think happened before people knew about vitamins?!? Humans got it naturally from meat and dairy.
B12 deficiency is awful so it is critical to everyone really.

I thin’ it’s because they tend to be very outspoken about how healthy they are are how it’s helping the planet when in fact a vegan diet is lacking in many essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals, fine if you choose to do this to yourself as an adult, but not if you’re affecting a child’s development. It really riles me.

I’m not.
Never met or known a vegan.
Went out for a meal this evening.
Had a lecture on my menu choice.
Now I understand.

Because the ones I've come across believe everyone should know they are vegan, that the whole supermarket fresh aisles should be vegan (' two bays of vegan food isn't enough!') and post as many videos and pictures on Facebook of animals being killed that they can find... bore off. I like KFC. My body, my choice.

Vegans aren’t all the same. Some are dicks and others are not. Just like meat eaters, vegetarians etc.

I haven’t ever lectured other people on their dietary choices. I cook meat (very well apparently) and don’t make a fuss in restaurants. There is normally something I can eat.

I am not following a bandwagon. I have been vegetarian, no milk and eggs since 7 and totally vegan for a number of years now. It wasn’t so easy in the 70’s and 80’s but much more so now.

@RavenLG I agree with you, twats in both sides.
But I think it’s wider than that, society seems to be getting more and more judgemental, as if ‘you’re either with me or against me’ are the only options instead of live and let live. It seems like everyone is now supposed to hold an X factor like judgement on everyone else.

Because most the vegans I know are very judgemental of meat eaters! I accept everyone can choose what they eat, but being lectured or having my Facebook feed full of meat is murder comments is them being judgmental. Live and let live

Live and let live

Without a hint of irony

People know carnivorism is wrong so vegans make them feel bad. Basically

Perhaps because it is an extremely unhealthy and unrealistic lifestyle and because vegans push and force their views onto other people.

LemonysSnicket, on the contrary. Vegans know that their lifestyle is wrong and unhealthy so they attempt to browbeat others to lessen their guilt.

People hate vegans because everyone knows vegans are the superior life forms.

As a recent vegan convert, I can honestly say that I am clearly a much better person now that I am vegan than I was before. And I am definitely so much better than all you inferior flesh eaters.

@ButchyRestingFace 🙌🏻

Holidayfromreal That is shocking! Surely that would be considered workplace harassment, and you should consider reporting him to HR or something?

In my experience it is the other way around. The vegans I know cant wait to share their views.

Friends meet for dinner every 3 months, it is a nightmare for the waitress, once the food arrives and I am about to enjoy my steak which is not often as I am a Low meat eater the conversation turns - how even a wild animal would not eat 21days dead meat. I bet them if they took my steak with pepper corn sauce and left it in a forest they could bet their shit any animal would eat it.

I was thinking about this in the wedding thread and didn't quite know how to word it, but I see many (not all of them) vegans in the same light as anti-abortionist crusaders. Both similar in their extreme evangelic proselytising.

Top tip for meat eaters who don't wish to have a discussion with a veggie/vegan about their diet - don't ask them about it!!!!

It is never necessary to ask, one is told. And told, and told, and told.

Humans would not have evolved if they did not eat meat, all the final stage hominids were onimvirous, the pure fruit/plant eating ones died out long before the others as those diets were not suitainable with developing the brain.
A famous evolution lecturer said in simple terms for evolution you only have a limited amount of enegry for development and one of the big choices for evolution in homins was developing the gut so it could process more plant matter which came at the cost of developing the brain (both needed vast amounts of nutriants and it was simply not practical in the homins to commit the engery required to develop both)

So the more successful of the homo genus branched out into the energy rich meat diet to supplement the vegetable matter they eat (in the beginning as simply scavengers before their mental captivity reached the threshold to become true hunters).

While vegans don't like listening to this but if humans did not evolve to eat meat we would not of survived as a speices (this is a fact not speculation as ALL the herbivore homins died out much earlier then the onimovures).

worridmum I am studying your post for my next dinner date with my vegan friends

Then I will eat my meat with the last 2 meat eating friends. Actually I hope they're not vegan now too

I worked with one vegan who was obsessive about it. She's a teacher and even tried to get her students to only bring vegan food in their lunchboxes because it would upset her to see someone eating a ham sandwich. She genuinely couldn't understand when parents began complaining to the principal about what she was telling the students. She also tried to demand that all staff functions were only vegan, and that no animal products could come into the staff room, and apparently people were being very unreasonable to not respect her beliefs. She was only a first year teacher, and didn't get her contract renewed.

By contrast a good friend of mine is vegan. I raise my own animals for meat, so it's an interesting contrast. We rarely discuss it, but we do have the occasional discussion about animal welfare and meat eating, but it's not a 'I'm vegan so I'm good, you meat eater bad'.'

I think what annoys a lot of people about the 'preacy' vegans is that they seem to make the assumption that people who eat meat haven't already examined their own ethics and decided what they can and can't live with. They assume that if they wave around some videos of animals being slaughtered that people will suddenly say 'you're right! I can't believe I never knew that my steak was once a cow'.

Vegans are not morally better humans.
My ex was a vegan and very abusive...to me and non vegans.
Do a ex is s when and she was abusive. Love vegan food and ethics but you are not a better humans for being vegan. Both vegans above drove vans...pollution anyone?!