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To think that the idea that the Croydon Cat killer is actually a Fox is a load of b*ll**cks

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mumof2andsurviving · 20/09/2018 22:40

^^just that really. I'm not buying this fox theory. Mutilated cats left on owners doorsteps...don't think even the most intelligent foxes could manage that.

AIBU to feel that either a) the police no longer have resources to spend on this or b) it is a tactic used to try and lull the perpetrator into a false sense of security?

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Cornettoninja · 21/09/2018 17:23

I think it’s really odd that no one picked up on this in three years tbh.

I do believe that there will be cases that have been labelled incorrectly but I don’t think that people suddenly stopped being able to recognise an accident or attack from a methodical murder.

I’m going with either propaganda for an undisclosed reason or easy pickings to reduce a budget.

LikesAnimalPark · 21/09/2018 17:56

In 3 of the cases where CCTV was found, foxes were seen carrying dead cats or parts of cats. I think after a certain number of deaths, they had to accept that one person couldn't have done it all but that whatever was killing the animals had the same sharpness of teeth. And didn't have human DNA.

TroysMammy · 21/09/2018 18:07

My cat didn't come home one Thursday night. I knew he would wander off to a busier road than the one I lived on. When he didn't come in at 9pm I went out with a torch calling him but I couldn't find him.
I found him on the Saturday morning in a place I'd looked previously. He was dead. His ribcage had been ripped open and some of him had been eaten. I think he was hit by a car, crawled away to die and some foxes found him and ripped him apart. I was devastated. I live in Swansea. It happens.

ToadOfSadness · 21/09/2018 18:47

I really would like it to be foxes/car accidents etc. However the placing of mutilated cats with the microchip removed on doorsteps and putting rabbits back in hutches is not fox activity.

No-one seems to have suggested yet that SNARL are doing the killings and making it look like foxes, am waiting for that gem to be thrown in to the discussion.

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 21/09/2018 18:58

It is a load of bollocks just one more thing for the police to sweep under the carpet and blame it on an animal

Come on now. Behave yourself.

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 21/09/2018 18:59

@ToadOfSadness yes but you’re just taking it as truth that those things have happened. Despite the police and vets not confirming that. And what they have confirmed, you don’t accept!

Don’t you think that bears some critical thinking?!

ToadOfSadness · 21/09/2018 19:28

DianaPrincess have you seen the comment from Streatham vets posted above?
And the article here? www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427

The Police confirmed many deaths, inspected bodies, did PM's and agreed that they were killed by a human. For some reason they have backtracked on this and now say it wasn't. They are also saying that if it appears to be a human killing they will still investigate so there must be something in it.

I still think there is something being covered up and something amiss. Whatever it is, and who is responsible for it, I hope it is resolved.

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 21/09/2018 19:39

I meant the vets engaged by the police.

Which bit of that article? The fact that Jayne claims the police told her to not tell the press that foxes were being used as a scapegoat? Or the theory that it’s a builder? Potters Bar isn’t really all that near Croydon either so does that support or disprove the theory?

RedneckStumpy · 21/09/2018 19:46

Putting the blame on a fox is the easy and cheap option.

Also when people in the area get killed, well dead people are cheap too.

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 21/09/2018 19:54

some foxes found him and ripped him apart. I was devastated. I live in Swansea. It happens.

Yes, but with all due respect, your cat was not put back on your doorstep or hung on your front door.
Foxes obviously scavenge/kill for food, but they don't slice off bits of the cat and place them back where the owner can find them.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 21/09/2018 20:08

That article is exactly the sort of thing people are talking about!

"His front left paw had been flattened, as if it had been held in a vice or some kind of trap."

Yeah, or if he had BEEN HIT BY A CAR!

It's hearing hoofbeats and thinking zebras.

EarlyModernParent · 21/09/2018 21:10

Conspiracy and cover-up should be considered last, after all reasonable answers have been ruled out, not seized on immediately.

CoolGirlsNeverGetAngry · 21/09/2018 21:14

Sorry @Troys that must have been bloody awful Flowers

MicroManaged · 21/09/2018 21:44

His front left paw had been flattened, as if it had been held in a vice or some kind of trap

Yeah, or if he had BEEN HIT BY A CAR!

This.

There are similar articles with interviews where people have described how their cats head had been ‘hacked off’ or their tail had been ‘removed and kept by someone as a trophy’. All very hysterical and emotive but complete rubbish.

Foxes are known for decapitating and removing the tails of prey.

Also - I keep reading about the doorstep ‘displays’ and cats being hung from doors and such - on here. Not seen any articles though - anyone care to link?

glintandglide · 21/09/2018 21:51

I’m wondering about the doorstop displays too Hmm

cadburyegg · 21/09/2018 21:57

I can find articles that reference the cats being put in carrier bags, such as:
metro.co.uk/2018/01/06/man-arrested-five-cats-found-decapitated-case-linked-croydon-cat-killer-7208887/

It seems though that only 2 cats were found in this way, so a bit of a far cry from 400. It's perfectly possible though that guilty drivers, or innocent members of the public who found them dead on the side of a road, put them there. Even if it was some crazed psycho, these are isolated incidents most likely.

As someone said upthread, people within a 50 mile radius (or whatever) of London are losing cats in random accidents and are all attributing it to a "cat killer" when there are more plausible explanations.

MicroManaged · 21/09/2018 22:34

I can believe that most cats in carriers are placed there after someone finds the body.

A neighbor did the same with one of our cats he found dead in his garden...put her in a bag near our back doorstep (but then did tell dh).

Initially it seems wrong but what is someone supposed to do with their neighbours dead cat other than put it in a bag?

glintandglide · 21/09/2018 23:12

I don’t believe her for a second. That’s utter bull.

Miladymilord · 21/09/2018 23:27

Boudicca Rising. Wow.

PsychedelicSheep · 22/09/2018 01:29

It is quite a name!

SallyVating · 22/09/2018 04:46

Show me the fox who likes Haribo and whose claws can cut through bone and muscle with the same precision as a blade

5bobaweek · 22/09/2018 04:58

I think a lot of people have got extremely carried away and nothing is going to happen.

Monty27 · 22/09/2018 06:03

I live near Croydon and the place is heaving with cats and foxes. They seem to live in harmony. They walk passed each other on the street without objection from either side.
Also one day my back door was open as my son was around. I was in bed poorly. I have two cats. I woke up to breathing in my face, thinking it was one of the cats I opened my eyes only to discover a young fox lying on me. I yelled, it sort of hissed/growled at me and ran off. The cats were in the kitchen.
Another time on a summer evening the back door was open, I went up to my bedroom for something and heard a rustle, thinking again it was a cat I yelled and from under my bed a fox scampered out. I made chase downstairs and one of my cats was sitting on the bottom stair while the fox dashed passed. The cat didn't flinch, it did however give me a funny look, as they do, as if to say 'whats your problem?'
The cats sunbathe in the garden and often there will be a fox nearby doing likewise.
In short I do not believe the infamous cat killer is simply a fox.

LaDaronne · 22/09/2018 06:39

I refuse on principle to take a group calling itself SNARL seriously. Sounds like a load of hearsay and Chinese whispers.

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