To say there is a stigma attached to social housing?

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Yes there is and its come about through the pretty much wholesale flogging off of social housing stock. Can Mrs May fix it as ago she says she will? Or is this simply early electioneering?

www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-hits-out-at-labours-focus-on-social-housing-58452

And now its lead to this. Absolutely sick.

www.expressandstar.com/news/2018/11/05/grenfell-tower-effigy-burned-at-bonfire-night-display-in-appalling-footage/

www.gov.uk/government/news/social-housing-green-paper-a-new-deal-for-social-housing

Yes, the effigy burning is awful.

However, the government's response to the tragedy is a little ambiguous. For example, the housing association from whom I rent has asked tenants to respond to the Social Housing Green Paper. I have responded to them and I have also responded to the government's independent consultation .

There are some positive moves proposed, but so far the green paper reflects: the government's obsession with home ownership; no real commitment (or mention of) how to prevent homelessness; no real commitment to (or mention of) the provision of social housing for people with disabilities or support for tenants with additional needs; a tendency to promote community housing groups and an insistence on maintaining the ambiguity between 'social' and 'affordable' housing.

I apologise for digressing a little, but whilst the effigy burning is sickening, the government's sticking-plaster approach towards to deep and complex problems of housing in this country is, in many ways, also offensive.

I totally agree Dob.

I have a 2 bed flat in a building of 4 on a life long tenancy. My rent is 391 per month rather than the usual 7-800 in the area.

I am very happy with this BUT to get it I ahd to go through hell so to me it was like the pot of gold at the end of a bleak road

Cassie Monroe
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4h4 hours ago

@HelloSanctuary think an offer of £100 is acceptable for failing to carry out repairs and ignoring complaints,resulting in arson and me losing my home!They don't care my son has bee traumatized by this &we have nothing!
@JohnnyMercerUK @realvoices @LizJ73 @DarrenWinter @chareyt

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I think there is still and likely always will be.

On a new housing estate nearby it's very clear from the upkeep of the houses who owns and who doesn't. The empty houses aren't selling now.

Growing up some estates were just awful and those that escape the life don't go back.

if you are talking about the outside of the houses that is the responsibility of the HA.

Helena surely the upkeep of a garden is a tenants responsibility. It's hardly the job of a HA to nip round and dig the gardens over, clear rubbish and make it look nice. I'm assuming that that's what TheBigBang was referring to?
If tenants are filling their gardens with crap making the area look awful then yes it's the HA job to give them the tennant a major kick up the backside.

Locally all the people I know with the best housing are council tenants. No one can afford the large houses with big gardens any other way.

Oh i thought the @BigBang was talking about the brickwork on the outside of the houses. i didnt realize she was talking about the gardens.

She didnt mention gardens so i didnt either. I have no garden and neither do many tenants round here. Im not moaning about that before anyone starts. Its interesting that thats the post you zoned in on though.

Well the LA don't help the cause. I live on a road where the first part of the street is private dwellings and the 2nd half is HA. Our (3) street lights get turned off at midnight to save money whilst the (5) lights in the HA part of the street stay on all night to prevent anti social behaviour apparently! All the lights are owned and run by the LA.

corporatewatch.org/tidemill-peabody-housing-association-from-social-landlord-to-big-business/?fbclid=IwAR0iwxLwtBP_UVIwaHdrdpK56MQ9glqXbB_3LapTKNJz8X_6k4qYKI8pky4

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3419451-the-housing-association-with-exposure-to-new-private-equity-funds-that-nearly-went-bust

Here there's stigma living on the once council estate whether you rent from the council, rent privately or own - and yes you can tell because the council clad all their housing stock

www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/barne-barton-fire-sanctuary-housing-2242905?fbclid=IwAR2FqoVIPhZKeSoV6QhIy8MVAyP6s4ZNh2Mhs9aqiPWYhy2KuQyUIhDQves

I think there is. It doesn’t help that newspaper print stories. For example the one about the lady who is pregnant with her 8th child. And demanding a bugger council house

Or the man today whose council house belonged to his father. Who was in massive debt. And now he can’t keep it.

Those stories don’t help the stigma

Hmm I think some people try and create a stigma and like to have an air of superiority because they’re jealous in lots of cases. Like the new estate next to me.. social tenants paying very low rent on the same houses people have paid 300k for.
The home owners try and separate themselves from the affordable housing all the time. It’s cringey.

Also I live in a council place- a cottage near the sea with a huge back garden. It’s gorgeous and I’m very lucky. The few neighbours I have rent from the council too bar two and they are lovely- all have full time jobs. So not all social housing is sprawling estates

I live on a new estate. Unfortunately the majority of poorly looked after properties belong to HA tenants. I have had to pay to cover an area that was full of weeds. I don’t mind if people have less or are HA, but I do mind that the area is well kept.

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