To have a fag in my garden if I want to?

[WomanInChains]

I only smoke in my garden, never in the street or anywhere else. A footpath runs along the side of it adjoining a woodland area. Footpath is a short cut to supermarket, doctors, hairdressers. I smoke in the alleyway at the side of my garden which runs adjacent with the footpath.

I am getting sick of random people making loud comments when they pass by my fence like 'that stink is disgusting, ohh someone's smoking eurgghh' and etc.

WIBU to shout over to the next person to fuck off away from my fence if it bothers them rather than pausing and making comments?

The difference Stormstar is when someone is stand next to you with a bottle of wine they are not forcing you to drink it too!

At least passers by are passing by. My neighbour smokes under my open bedroom window every single night. And morning. (Morning fag is accompanied by ten minutes of phlegmy coughing. We don't need an alarm anymore.)

Fuck that! People are so sensitive to cigarette smoke it's ridiculous.

Honestly if it bothers people that much then they should just never leave their houses because pollutants are EVERYWHERE you just can't see them.

It's your garden! Tell them to do one.

If you take away the word smelly you could say the same of alcohol. Shall we ban that too?

If I sit and have one glass of wine - who does that affect?

If you sit and have one fag it affects everyone in the immediate area who is subjected to it.

Absolutely anyone's right to smoke, absolutely anyone's right to comment on it when affected in a public area.

Wherever you are and wherever you are smoking, nobody has a right to be rude. It pisses me off how self-righteous disgust excuses lack of good manners. Everyone feels it's their right to tell smokers they stink etc. They can move away, walk faster, mind their own business and rude health, so yes, if they offer their piece of mind to you, offer them your "fuck off".

I smoke menthol fags in my garden or on a street when I'm walking and no one ever said anything. I move a fag away if someone is coming towards me, generally try to move away and show consideration.

Alleyway is in the OPs garden.

Yanbu. Ignore them OP.

Why don't you take up vaping, or just stop smoking, or smoke somewhere else?
My neighbours smoke in their garden in the evenings and it wafts up to DD's room so I had to keep the window closed all summer long. Their right to smoke outside, but still crap and stinky for us.
Are you actually getting any pleasure from smoking?

I'm the evil villain whatever I do so why even bother trying to compromise with them?

I’m sure you are not in the least evil
Storm I’m sure you are quite lovely.

However you must see that between smoker and non-smoker there isn’t really any space to “compromise”.

Your smoke damages my health. The smell is really, really horrible.

It’s great that you try to be considerate and move away but even then you are carrying out an activity which impacts on my environment. The smoke and smell travel and it’s unpleasant.

The only thing the non-smoker can do for their half of the “compromise”
is pretend it doesn’t bother them or spoil their meal. But it does.

So you smoke in a public space. I’m assuming this is a narrow alleyway which I assume with high fences either side. Yet you object to people complaining. The issue is the smoke stays in close proximity for longer. So you expect passers by to be happy to walk through a haze of your secondary smoke. That would piss me off.

Everyone feels it's their right to tell smokers they stink etc. They can move away, walk faster, mind their own business and rude health, so yes, if they offer their piece of mind to you, offer them your "fuck off".

Absolutely. It seems to be socially acceptable to be an arsehole to a smoker.

What would people think if I started harassing all of the obese people in McDonalds?!?

Abuse/over use of alcohol is dangerous and can be anti social but small amounts have some health benefits. it has has blood thinning properties so can reduce the risks of blood clots/strokes. Smoking causes nothing but harm.

Additionally if I were to sit in my garden drinking a glass of wine or a G&T no one passing by would even know let alone smell it or inhale it. It is less intrusive than smoking.

What would people think if I started harassing all of the obese people in McDonalds?!?

I'd think you weren't very clever because it isn't really a good comparison.

FWIW I'm never an arsehole to a smoker. I work on the "who was there first" rule. So if someone is sitting smoking, I move elsewhere. If I'm already sitting and someone comes along and lights up I ask them politely if they would mind moving.

Ahh. Probably is the menthol that’s attracting people’s attention. My mate smokes them too. Smells like an arson attack on the Trebor factory.

What would people think if I started harassing all of the obese people in McDonalds?!?

If you think about it carefully, your argument doesn’t actually work, does it?😂

Their obesity, eating habits have no affect on your life🙄

Just ignore them.

I’d say something back - can’t stand people making loud pointed comments about others rather than to them. I manage to breathe in exhaust fumes, overpowering perfumes and air fresheners walking without spitting my dummy so anyone kicking off about a fag I would find most idiotic.

Second hand smoke, lol, as they say. I bet all of you saying that are car drivers. Case closed.

I personally though wouldn't smoke in the alleyway but inside the garden. Surely it would be more comfortable - you can sit down, have a pot to dispose the butts and you'll be out of the people's way?

We have to be considerate too, which means keeping as far away from others as possible, not on their walkway. They, in turn, have no right to be rude.

PurpleTrilby
Second hand smoke, lol, as they say. I bet all of you saying that are car drivers. Case closed

well said.

If you take away the word smelly you could say the same of alcohol. Shall we ban that too

Abso-fucking-lutely.

The sooner the drains of alcohol and smoking are banned, the better.

OP, if your smoke smell is blowing into a public place you should expect to receive negative comments. Don't like it? Don't inflict your noxious poison on others.

Their obesity, eating habits have no affect on your life

Given that obesity costs the NHS more money than smoking it actually does.

I think it's just as a comparable scenario when all you are really talking about is a bit of smoke in a public space, you probably breathe in more pollution from crossing a road.

It seems to be socially acceptable to be an arsehole to a smoker.

That’s probably because everyone feels like the smoker is first being an arsehole to them by making the area smell terrible and by forcing them to breathe in their toxic fumes.

Perhaps smokers don’t realise how truly horrible their smoke smells?

Or how infuriating it is to get home and have to wash your hair and all your clothes because they smell dreadful due to a stranger’s life choices.

By contrast the obese person eating too much doesn’t impinge on my environment, my health or my enjoyment of my day at all.

I think it's just as a comparable scenario when all you are really talking about is a bit of smoke in a public space

It isn't though. What you're talking about is how that one action affects someone. So obese person on bench next to me? Doesn't affect me at all. Smoker next to me? It absolutely does.

If you want to make the comparison re: costs then yes - it makes more sense but that isn't the issue is it?

To be honest I would massively support a ban on smoking anywhere but your own home.

Fuck that! People are so sensitive to cigarette smoke it's ridiculous.

I know right? I mean it's as if they think cigarette smoke causes lung cancer and a whole host of other health problems, and don't want to have to breathe it in or be around it but have no choice.

Fucking snowflakes.