To have a fag in my garden if I want to?

[WomanInChains]

I only smoke in my garden, never in the street or anywhere else. A footpath runs along the side of it adjoining a woodland area. Footpath is a short cut to supermarket, doctors, hairdressers. I smoke in the alleyway at the side of my garden which runs adjacent with the footpath.

I am getting sick of random people making loud comments when they pass by my fence like 'that stink is disgusting, ohh someone's smoking eurgghh' and etc.

WIBU to shout over to the next person to fuck off away from my fence if it bothers them rather than pausing and making comments?

Teacher The problem with *individual freedom and choice" is that it generally applies to mindlessly eating crap, smoking, drinking too much, mountaineering in fog etc.

The NHS is creaking at the seams and all those 'free choicers' aren't helping.

Angelo I've never heard of one case of passive smoking where the smoker is standing 10 feet away in the outside air so your comment is pretty worthless too hun.

MN has been overtaken by more and more idiots.

MN has been overtaken by more and more idiots

Well quite. The irony.

Yes, and rightly so. Its a smelly, anti social, filthy dangerous habit that kills people

I don’t smoke, smoking shouldn’t be banned. People should be free to choose what they do. If they want to smoke and kill them selves that’s fine.

Have you never heard of Roy Castle, OP?

I don't think you've explained, OP, why you think your right to smoke next to a passage trumps people's right to say what they want.

Like you have the right to call people stupid.

vanilla isn't there a bit of a difference between an entertainer spending years in smoke filled clubs and someone getting a waft of it in the open air?

While the issues around passive smoking are well reported, let's at least keep some sense of proportion about this

MN has been overtaken by more and more idiots

Exactly. Especially the ones who continue to smoke knowing it will kill them usually with a host of horrible diseases. Not just lung cancer but all cancers likely as well as heart disease.

@womaninchains you don't seem to 'get' at all that people who do not smoke DO NOT LIKE THE SMELL OF FAGS.

You will be pretty immune to it. It smells foul. Anyone inhaling it over your fence or alleyway or whatever it is , will have to breathe it in. It hangs in the air. It settles on clothes. Try walking past a bonfire and see how your clothes stink. Though you won't notice as you stink of smoke anyway.

Smoke away- but not where other people are affected. Find somewhere away from a public footpath.

Especially the ones who continue to smoke knowing it will kill them usually with a host of horrible diseases. Not just lung cancer but all cancers likely as well as heart disease.

It might do, it might not. At any rate, death is a certainty for all .

Try walking past a bonfire and see how your clothes stink.

I love that smell. Woodsmoke has to be one of the best smells around.

Yes you can smoke in your garden. But others are within rights to comment.

But to answer your question of AIBU... yes you are. Increased chance of cancer. Expensive. Stinks on you and atmosphere. So yes you ABU since you asked.

Fine. Come and live here where there have been three bonfires in two weeks. Three beautiful late summer days ruined by hours of smoke billowing over the garden. If someone had a fag it would last five minutes and have disappeared completely in ten.

@LeftRightCentre More than two thirds of smokers will die of a smoking related disease. So you're right that's it's not a certainty, & yes we all have to die of something, but I personally wouldn't want to take that kind of risk of dying earlier than necessary.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/more-than-two-thirds-of-smokers-are-killed-by-diseases-caused-by-tobacco-use-says-study-10077802.html%3famp

Yes Queen . The medical profession has known about the dangers of smoking since the 1950s. I don't understand how anyone can smoke nowadays.

Now the cynical tobacco companies are trying their best to get the poorest people round the world hooked, people who live in countries that have very little (if any) free medical help.

FFS there are some zealots on here! I don’t smoke and can’t stand the smell, but OP is in her own garden. And as a passer by even if she were in a smoking shelter outside a pub I wouldn’t feel the need to comment. Privately i might think it’s a shame people smoke when it is such a health risk but I’m fortunate to have never started so have no idea how good it would make me feel/how hard it would be to stop.

Smoking threads on here are batshit, House as are food threads.

It might do, it might not.

Research has shown that smokers have a much increased risk of early death and nasty cancers, as well as other lung and mouth and throat diseases.
But you keep kidding yourself.

but I personally wouldn't want to take that kind of risk of dying earlier than necessary

Yes, much better to live to your 90s and end up in a care home with dementia. That’s a far more pleasant end

You can do what you like in your own garden but smoking smells so horrible. I think smokers lose the recollection of just how nasty it is to walk into a cloud of someone else’s smoke. So I can’t really blame the people affected by it. It’s good you confine it to your garden though, lots of smokers aren’t that considerate.

(A) Yanbu for smoking in your own garden if you want to. There are previous few places smokers can smoke these days. I say that as a lifelong non smoker btw.

(B) If I (as a non smoker) was a passer by in the alley next to your garden and smelt the smoke, I would try to hold my breath until I had passed through the smoke. I wouldn't like it but also wouldn't feel the need to pass comment due to (a) above.

@ Lweji

Which means they all die off in their late 50s/early 60s at the end of their economically productive lives and after their DC are independent. They are thus net contributors to the state finances.

Unlike the fat who develop type 2 diabetes but don’t die until they have cost us all a fortune and the fitness freaks who live to 100 thus collecting their pensions for longer than they actually worked.

Wait, so are we arguing that smoking is good because it means you're less likely to suffer from dementia and you're a better net contributor to the economy??

wtf

I’m an ex smoker. When I was a smoker I had no idea how much it stank. How much I reeked of it and how much it affected others, including when I was out in the open (which I unconsciously sort of assumed neutralised it somehow, as if the breeze immediately magicked it away....).

It’s your right to smoke in your garden, but it does smell gross. If people comment then they are being bothered by it.

I gave up smoking years ago because people were getting really shitty about it. My neighbours complained non stop about me smoking in my (not small) garden almost everyday. I'd end up sitting in the shed with the spiders to have a fag. Simply wasn't worth the hassle in my life.

@Diego

I’m arguing that I am an adult and I have a choice. Everyone seems to think every smoker would love to give up but is just too weak/addicted. If I really wanted to give up I’d just go to my GP and get champix. Apparently you barely even need willpower with that. I don’t want to give up right now. I enjoy a cigarette with a coffee or a glass of wine. It’s my choice. I find it an enjoyable activity. May be I will want to give up one day, maybe not. Maybe cigarettes will kill me, maybe they won’t. Now i’m getting older I have known of a few friends, colleges etc die in their 60s. Not one of them was a smoker (nor were they’re partners so they didn’t live in a smoky home). In my own family, my uncle who lives a super healthy lifestyle got lung cancer. My mum who smoked 40 a day for 40 years is fine and healthy (they live in different countries so don’t see each other a lot, before anyone says it was her second hand smoke that caused it!). So I agree with the pp that said that we all die of something. I know the risks, I choose to take them.