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Inconsiderate parking

207 replies

DeborahDowner · 09/09/2018 19:36

Is there anyone on here who could explain to me why you would consider parking up in front of someone’s home nearish to an airport, for any old length of time, rather than paying for long stay or taking public transport?

Will anyone admit to doing this IRL? Please enlighten me. Honestly I’m all ears as I’d never, ever consider doing this to you and I’m trying to understand the thought process.

I don’t think I AIBU but I would love to hear the flip side of why people would think it’s ok to do this...

—i may have a flyparker outside our home (again)—

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PookieDo · 09/09/2018 23:22

Not my airport but people being mean to OP about being obsessive - This is a huge issue for any area near an airport

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/residents-anger-manchester-airport-holidaymakers-9464944

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/08/disgruntled-resident-vandalises-cars-left-near-luton-airport/

OP there is also a special dedicated airport helpline for this on the council website 😉

Nettletheelf · 09/09/2018 23:24

I was on the fence until I read that you lived in a cul de sac. Parking in those is always a nightmare so anybody dumping their car in one for weeks, whilst technically entitled to do so, is being a bit bloody selfish.

Is your road specifically named as a good place to park on a tightwad website? You say that it’s not an obvious area to choose for people who don’t know the locale. Is it possible that some of your neighbours might have advised friends to leave their cars in your road, but won’t admit to it?

The root of the problem is likely greedy airport operators. Leeds Bradford airport changed ownership about 10 years ago. I don’t fly from there often since it’s not my local airport, but they charge you £3 just to drive onto their land, even if you don’t park the car and keep the engine running whilst you drop somebody off. Friends who live locally tell me that they see people walking with their luggage from the dual carriageway to the airport because they resent the mandatory charge. Parking is expensive and only one cab firm are permitted to operate on site...after they pay a big fee to Leeds Bradford airport, of course. A cab home costs double what it would with an ordinary cab firm.

It doesn’t justify selfish parking, but it explains part of it.

DeborahDowner · 09/09/2018 23:24

@19lottie82 thanks, I know, most people wouldnt do this in real life. It’s just those that do.....

And for PP who gagged on me saying hollibobs - it was definitely soar with angry irony! Wink

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DeborahDowner · 09/09/2018 23:25

*said

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PookieDo · 09/09/2018 23:28

Yeah same costs here for driving into drop off and pick up!

If anyone needs any help with the scale - over 20 million people a year using an airport is a fuck load of fucking cars trying to save themselves money. You could go out one morning and come home to your whole street full of cars there for 2 weeks in July! It’s not just 1 odd car!

DeborahDowner · 09/09/2018 23:34

@nettletheelf I can’t bring myself to look at said tightwad website but will admit to have put a pleading note on there in years gone by to encourage tightwads not be so selfish!

As far as I know our street isn’t specifically named. It is so unsuitable I seriously doubt it would be. It’s more generic, as in ‘try parking on residential streets in the small village a quick journey away from the airport on the train’. It’s still as 10/15 minute walk to the train station from ours and a £20 taxi fare to the airport. (£25-30 return)

Please nobody try to work it out and plan their holidays around this 😂

Curious about those who have said about cctv being a problem- why? We have motion sensitive ones ourselves as do our neighbours because there have been burglaries on our street. We were told by the police to have this if we wanted to claim for some of them.

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BackforGood · 09/09/2018 23:35

and if you can’t afford to park really you can’t afford your holiday

.....or maybe you can afford your holiday, out of the savings you make by never paying for things you can get elsewhere for free, or at a much reduced cost ??

Love the fact that people are suggesting getting the train instead of parking...... presumably it is OK with those living by the airport, for people to park outside the houses of those living near stations then ? Grin

DeborahDowner · 09/09/2018 23:39

But those living near an airport generally live near a station? Not an issue for us as it’s walkable to the station (as cheapskate.com rightly advises!)

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PookieDo · 09/09/2018 23:41

@BackforGood

If you read any of what we wrote we live in the same place and it’s glaringly obvious people are getting the train, as they are trying to park close to the train station TO GET TO THE AIRPORT. Seen as they have no aversion to a train, they could get a train from where they live? Oh and most residents areas near train stations have resident parking because of this. But it isn’t such a ‘thing’ for airport parking because it’s worse during summer and probably not justified all year round

BackforGood · 09/09/2018 23:53

You are forgetting that not everyone has a train station near them.
You are also wrong in your assumption that most train stations have residents parking permits near them. They don't near here.

Don't get me wrong. I can see it is annoying, but as so many have said, it is annoying for people who live by the sea, when they can't move for holiday traffic. It is annoying for those who live by hospitals when they can't park for staff parking in their streets, and so on and so on and so on. You can't blame people for wanting to save a few quid when they can though.

Nettletheelf · 09/09/2018 23:55

Here’s an idea OP. Become a member of tightarse.com or whatever the site is called, pose as a ‘fly parker’ and start a thread complaining about your car being damaged by vengeful residents when parked in your village. Also casually mention that other chancers have experienced the same thing.

Words spreads quickly amongst the tightarse community (I’m not part of it, but I work with somebody who is...he left work early to get to Tesco once when he found out that he could make 20p a go on some random reduced food item after a multibuy offer was applied). You may find that the problem swiftly reduces!

Nettletheelf · 09/09/2018 23:58

Just read backforgood’s post. I get what you are saying about residents being inconvenienced by parking near hospitals, business parks etc., but I can’t sign up to the idea that it’s ok to “save a few bob when you can” when you know that it inconveniences other people. It’s just a bit crap, isn’t it?

DeborahDowner · 10/09/2018 00:04

....Yes but holiday makers and hospital staff aren’t abandoning cars and inconveniencing people for weeks or months on end. It’s different.....

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PookieDo · 10/09/2018 00:06

People who do all those things too are inconsiderate wankers. If I go to the hospital, I park in the car park or a nearby car park. Generally people who own cars can usually afford to run them and understand that paying for allocated parking is a by product of car owning

I feel sympathy for people who live near the sea, airports train stations and hospitals. I empathise with what it must be like. Not just say ‘oh well everyone else is doing it so what does it matter’ Confused. Just because people do it, doesn’t mean just accepting it!

So yes. You can blame everyone trying to save a few quid by making other people’s lives miserable where they happen to live near something where parking is paid for and people want to avoid it. Which is why even at the seaside I would pay and display and not be inconsiderate. I factor it in as part of my cost for the outing

BackforGood · 10/09/2018 00:35

DeborahDowner Hospitals are staffed 365 days a year, 24 hours a day. Staff can't afford hospital parking to be at work. There are a lot of streets near hospitals that are clogged up throughout the year with non-residents parking, not just for the holiday season. Yes, one shift goes home, and another one comes, but the space is still taken. It is likely that the physiotherapist, or the administrator, or the radiographer or the receptionist, or the person that works in the Costa, or WH Smiths, or the pharmacy assistant or the person that makes the plaster casts etc etc etc has to park there 5 days a week, 46 or 47 weeks of the year.

Yes, it is different. Parking is needed all year round there.

Fairenuff · 10/09/2018 00:42

To be honest it's never even crossed my mind to park for free in nearby residential areas. Thanks for the head up, OP, I think I might do this from now on.

LeroyJenkins · 10/09/2018 06:41

Maybe you should direct your anger at expensive parking and drop off at the airport? If you think it's around £50 for a return taxi,then people would probably around £50/60 for convenience

Its not cf-ery, it's life

PookieDo · 10/09/2018 07:17

@Fairenuff

Use your common sense and dont Park somewhere idiotic!

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 10/09/2018 07:26

Selfish bastards that's why. Not interested in anything else other than themselves.

BIWI · 10/09/2018 07:30

I’m just taken aback by how many of you would at least in theory assert your right to inconvenience others.

I don't think anyone here is advocating creating an inconvenience to others. But people are pointing out - again and again Grin - that people are parking legally on the public highway

Use your common sense and dont Park somewhere idiotic!

If they're parked illegally or somewhere 'idiotic' (by which I assume you don't just mean outside your house?) then the council/police should deal with them, surely?

I really get that it's irritating when someone parks outside your house, especially if it inconveniences you. But it's totally legal.

Residents' parking would seem a good idea, or getting the council to put in yellow lines - although you do need to be careful that this doesn't inconvenience residents as well.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 10/09/2018 07:35

Biwi if someone blocked you in your drive meaning you couldn't get to work, pick up your toddler from nursery or get to your sick elderly parent would you still be so understanding and say " oh but it's legal " Hmm

LeroyJenkins · 10/09/2018 08:16

Biwi if someone blocked you in your drive meaning you couldn't get to work, pick up your toddler from nursery or get to your sick elderly parent would you still be so understanding and say " oh but it's legal "

But that's not legal

MissusGeneHunt · 10/09/2018 08:32

@DeborahDowner - if you're neighbours and you have tried to further support from the Council (and Highways) and are waiting for some form of result (which granted, can take a million years) would it be worth getting everyone affected together and finding someway to get some residents' signs put up? These could be to the effect of 'Whilst there are no yellow lines or resident's parking restrictions in effect, if you MUST park here, please do so with consideration for the emergency services and waste collections.'

No doubt the Council will be round swiftly to remove said signs, to which you could merely repost them and remind the Council that their slow actions have embedded your own actions...

I agree, no one here appears to be advocating inconsiderate parking (blocking drives / on corners etc) but until you have legalised parking restrictions put in place, there's little you can do apart from this (save from putting notes on car windscreens, which someone may find is illegal for some reason???).

Just thoughts....

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 10/09/2018 09:03

Leroy it absolutely IS legal. I live on a narrow road, people often park right next to my drive, often double parking. I cannot get my car on or off the drive when they do this.

They know that I will be stuck but they don't care because all they care about is that THEY are parked.

LyndorCake · 10/09/2018 09:43

Would you take the last available space in a car park? After all, there could be people who needed that space more than you and you've massively inconvenienced them by using it. You are, however, parked perfectly legally and within your right.

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