The purge has begun Aibu to think that labour members do not understand this

[1981fishgut]

So the pruge of the Moderates has started
But the villagers with their stralinist pitch forks have missed one important thing

That you can win an election no matter how increased your member ship is Mr Corbyn will need to convince floating voters Tory’s and UKIP voters to vote for him

And he can pose with grime artists and student unhook reps who will alll sing oohhhb Jeremy Corbyn turn up to the rallies but don’t vote in any noteable numbers to change much and trans people only make up about 1% of the population so......

Polk

That's why I referred to the system as fatally flawed. But if we're going to have a 2 party system and not see any meaningful reform I would rather have 2 parties to choose from, rather than be fairly indistinguishable from each other

And it might help if you knew the name of the Shadow Chancellor.

Musicforthemasses

... and If you think there would be a similar result we’re there to be a general election tomorrow you are in la la land.

Labour is now truly the home of the mad, sad and bad.

Getting into power is less important to the far left than ‘taking back’ the party reins.

While there is Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn in the Labour Party, I will never vote Labour.

Jeremy Corbyn has been in the Labour Party since the 1970's, so unless you're even older than me, you'll never have voted Labour.

I suspect Diane Abbott has been in the party almost as long, she was a Labour councillor in the early 80s.

@101 so what makes you think that people will vote for Chairman May and her absolute shower of privileged, out of touch party?

The current polls certainly don’t reflect what you are saying! As they didn’t when Corbyn was 20 points behind

*party members

Let’s have a two party system, for clarity we could call them “rock” and “hardplace”.

Silly mummies! Don't you worry your pretty little heads over this.

Corbyn has the keys to Utopia. Listen to me.

@trumpdump Really?? Let’s patronise anyone who tries to challenge or debate shall we!

Music

Sorry, you are deluded if you think the current Labour Party (at civil war, racist and well out of step with floating voters in most areas of policy) could recreate that general election performance again. And even at peak corbyn they still lost.

Until the current front bench are consigned to where they belong - at the very back of the backbenchers - labour are out of the government game

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45445297

This is not the Labour Party I joined.

Fuck it, this isn't even the Labour Party I resigned from after Blair and Dubya invaded Iraq.

@10 degrees but where is your evidence for this? That is what bothers me about these threads- the opinion polls at the moment are very close. Sometimes the tories are a free points ahead, sometimes labour. That is the only way of knowing at the moment the views of the population- the rest is media propaganda and hearsay!
Theresa May & the tories have literally destroyed this country - we could be in a state of emergency next March in the event of a no deal brexit with food and medicine shortages. They are incompetent beyond belief.
The only way to work this out is a general election and then we could see if th polls are right.

*few not free

Music

This is where our world views differ. The tories are inept but to say they have ‘literally destroyed’ this country is a gross exaggeration

And let’s not conflate this with Brexit - after all, Saint corbyn (that long opponent of the eu) is hardly likely to ride to remainers rescue on the back of a white charger is he?

As I have said, I vote Lib Dem in my area but I am watching it all in amazement!

It's crazy how Corbyn has turned some genuinely moral and sensible progressives into apologists for things they never could have previously supported and brush it off as hearsay and propaganda, but Trump get into the WH so I guess anything is possible now.

They don't care as long as they can congratulate themselves on being what they see as morally superior and staying true to their beliefs regardless of having little to no power to make changes for those they claim to care so much about {hmm]

Corbyn's response to Blair saying that he he feels the Labour Party is unlikely to be taken back by the moderates in the party was that the party had the largest membership number ever

ffs this is real politics not a student union

Three years fucking wasted and fools still believe the idiot Corbyn can be PM on day and the establishment are scared of him and them wtf are they smoking he cant even put up a good opposition again the most fractured Tory party of recent times

Interesting that McDonnell is making himself more visible has Corbyn not Lansman's favourite anymore but can he afford to give him the push

It bores me that people focus on Corbyn while the Tory party are burning the country to the ground

most that do focus on Corbyn are life long Labour supporters many are members or ex member who feel strongly about having an effective opposition and a party that can win an election - they didn't last time though they did do better than expected but that's it there is more to being in opposition than attending rallies

I’m a Tory but even I think having an effective opposition is essential. The Labour Party are not taking that responsibility seriously

What polk said

Not a labour voter but i can see why people voted for the polices and as a politican he came over very well to the masses just prior to the last election

Labour is much to far left for me, tory too far right and the lib dems seem to have given up!

The media without any question have it in for corbyn...but to be fair they dont seem over keen on may either

I’m a Tory but even I think having an effective opposition is essential. The Labour Party are not taking that responsibility seriously

Absolutely!!

I’m a life long Labour voter but when you oust a Labour MP who has worked for hard for her community against that communities wishes and then sell the live broadcasting rights of you doing it to Iranian TV a regime that bans unions, abuse women’s rights and executes gays they no longer get my vote.
These people don’t represent me and I won’t be part of this extremist mob any more. They are no longer concerned about the people their supposed to represent only in giving through their ideology.

I agree the Tories are destroying the country Labour should be destroying the Tories at the moment it’s an open goal.
Instead they’re choosing to fuck about by not denouncing anti-semitism, supporting the lunatic trans fringe, supporting Brexit, attacking the press and making themselves into a totalitarian regime where no dissent against the leader is permitted. It’s insane they should be miles in front but their stupid student politics means none takes them seriously. JC would rather see everything burn than compromise on anything and that is no way to run a government.

I don't know about anyone else but the labour MPs and members of council in my area (Liverpool) are slowly tearing half the city to the ground. They're a shambles. When even the most liberal of Northeners around here are turning against them wondering who the fuck to vote for, they have lost the plot, and the country.

If Labour get in nationally again they will truely cause permanent damage beyond words.

The 'Corbyn bubble' is firmly down south right now and even many millenials up here are watching the shitshow with open mouths.

I’m a Tory but even I think having an effective opposition is essential. The Labour Party are not taking that responsibility seriously

This