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AIBU to get the rage when people Monologue at me?

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ShadyLady53 · 06/09/2018 21:22

Just that really? For the love of all that is good and holy can someone tell me their tips on how to deal with people who just go on and on at you? I’ve got one of those faces and people just seem to approach me out of nowhere and give me their life story. People say “she’s such a lovely girl” about me like I’m Mary Sunshine but, honestly, on the inside I’m starting to feel like a complete bitch cos while they are talking at me I’m just thinking “shut up shut up shut up” or “I don’t care”. I know I sound light hearted but, actually, I am beginning to feel like a horrible person and it’s affecting how I see myself. I think I’m just really burnt out and need to conserve my energy so I can give it to my work and the people who really matter to me in life but I seem to get people latching on to me and sucking all the energy out of me.

I’ve got a specific problem with one man who has started calling me and talking at me with no chance to get a word in edgeways. He also does this in real life and has an awful habit of telling me the entire contents of books that he has read, that I have also read but he still feels the need to mansplain all over again to me.We occasionally volunteer at the same place and I (stupidly) agreed to help him with a project. I am a freelancer and also teach on a degree course and at the moment I am working constantly with no time off and very stressed. He is aware of this. He emails to ask when he can call to discuss the project and today I made it clear I was going out with family and I’m very stressed and I could only chat very briefly. He spoke, non stop, for 20 minutes about himself, his holidays, his views on the world before I was able to say anything. I know exactly what the weather was like on every drive he was on and what the walls were decorated with in each room of the house he was staying in. I know all about the little steam train trip he took. None of this was about the project and I know this sounds so horrible but...I don’t care. I didn’t ask for this information. The time before this he was on the phone to me for almost an hour, pontificating at me, giving me all of his philosophy on life and laughing at his own jokes etc. I was so bored I genuinely wanted to cry. He doesn’t stop, just goes from one subject to another and he’s so passionate and enthusiastic about it all which makes me feel like a complete bitch when I don’t care. I just want him to get to the point so I can get on with everything else I need to do.

This evening I had to say, “look, i don’t mean to be rude but we are about to have our next course, please can you tell me what it was you needed to know?”. It turned out to be something that needed a one word answer and that could have easily been dealt with via email and he seemed shocked that I wanted to end the conversation once I had given him the information.

Before anyone asks he is neurotypical and there is no chance of him “being on the spectrum” or having an additional need. We’re both in our 30s, have known each other for a few years and imo we are very different with not much in common. I think he’d realise that if he gave me a chance to be myself. I’m quite confident but around him have no room to be myself. I’m reduced to just saying “mmhmmm, yeah, right, I know, great...” etc.

I just feel so sick of being talked at. It makes me feel totally invisible and like it’s perfectly acceptable to just offload on me and take up my time.

Trouble is I can’t work out if I’m just being really nasty and unreasonable or if I have a fair point. I also don’t know how to make it stop!

Have I just got to suck it up and accept it?

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ShadyLady53 · 06/09/2018 21:26

Jesus. Sorry for the lack of paragraphs early on! Why doesn’t MN have an edit button?

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RayRayBidet · 06/09/2018 21:26

Just don't answer the phone if it's not convenient.
If he calls and you answer say "look, I'm on my way into the gynaecologist/funeral director/court to stand trial for murder, what do you need to know. Make it quick I'm in a hurry."

fc301 · 06/09/2018 21:32

Well your OP is a long monologue...

lepotato · 06/09/2018 21:34

I didn't read the whole thing because I don't have time but you need to toughen up! I couldn't cope with people going on at me I'd just fake an emergent or something

lepotato · 06/09/2018 21:35

*emergency

ShadyLady53 · 06/09/2018 21:35

The trouble is he emails me to ask me to confirm a time when he can call me and then calls me exactly on the dot. I feel like I can’t say “there isn’t ever a convenient time to call me sorry.” He’s very sensitive and formal and he would take offence. With other guys I know I could make a jokey comment and they’d know they’d been ranting and laugh it off/stop. We don’t have that kind of relationship and I don’t want to be rude or earn myself a reputation as being difficult.

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Fatted · 06/09/2018 21:37

Just don't answer the phone to him. He probably likes to phone you because you're the only person who listens to him!

I work on the phone and have little patience now with lengthy conversations with no point. I won't phone friends or family now unless I need to and even then I keep it short and sweet.

lepotato · 06/09/2018 21:40

I'm sorry I'm not able to talk on the phone, I have hearing loss due to otosclerosis.

lepotato · 06/09/2018 21:41

Or answer and then say oh sorry got to go somethings burning/someone's at the door/the lines gone funny

NonaGrey · 06/09/2018 21:46

He does sound difficult and rude but you need to assert your boundaries.

Answer the phone saying “I only have a few minutes what do you need” or whatever.

Your issue isn’t that you cant interrupt him, your issue is that you don’t want to as you feel it’s rude.

So just be rude (though you probably aren’t really being rude). Be direct, set boundaries and stick to them.

He’s not a mindreader and clearly hasn’t the greatest social skills - he won’t get hints, you’ll have to make it really, really clear.

CitrusFruit9 · 06/09/2018 21:55

TBH I'd just say, I can't give you any more time, please don't contact me again. If he contacts you again just hang up/ignore his emails. You need to develop some boundaries.

CitrusFruit9 · 06/09/2018 21:55

Ha cross post with NonaGrey!

Rednaxela · 06/09/2018 22:06

Just talk over him. Don't answer the phone. Etc.

Seriously, what is the worst that could happen?!

Rednaxela · 06/09/2018 22:07

And stop saying yeah mmhmm. He is taking that as encouragement to carry on.

A stony silence may work wonders

ShadyLady53 · 06/09/2018 22:15

Yeah, I think you are right about boundaries. I think I need to take care of my needs/feelings and care less about offending him. There were long periods of silence and he did start to sound hesitant so maybe that would also work. Thank you.

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Happityhap · 06/09/2018 22:16

Email to tell him your doctor has advised you to cut down on everything you possibly can, as you're getting over-stressed. So that means you can't help him with his project any more.

In person, say "I'm sorry, I'm not registering what you're saying. My brain's completely knackered." Then ignore him.

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 06/09/2018 22:25

Don’t give him a time, tell him you’ll call him when you get a minute. Then don’t call. He can like it or lump it. Answer his emails and just breezily apologise and answer his questions but don’t answer the phone!

SamanthaBrique · 06/09/2018 22:26

Is the man who monologues at you your father, and is your name Olivia Pope?

ShadyLady53 · 06/09/2018 22:40

I have no idea who Olivia Pope is and this man is not my father.

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TheWholeHog · 06/09/2018 22:50

Just be rude, ffs! He’s being rude to you by taking up your time unnecessarily, which gives us ou carte blanche to be equally as rude back.
“I’m sorry John, I haven’t got much time, what did you want to ask me about exactly?” Is a perfectly reasonable thing to say in your situation. Don’t give an inch.

Birdsgottafly · 06/09/2018 23:01

Who, except him, would consider you "difficult", if you cut the conversation?

Why are you placing your feelings and wants, below his? Out of interest, do you do that with other Women, also, or just Men?

You need to practice the conversation were you say that you haven't got much time to talk and to stop him when he gets off the point.

Decide how much time you are willing to give him and don't go over that.

Don't do silences, it won't help you to overcome this.

TheBlueDot · 06/09/2018 23:01

Why are you beating yourself up about appearing rude when this man has no such consideration for you?

People like this are used to others stopping them. He’s latched into you because you’ve been encouraging him.

Do you have to keep on helping him (work reputation etc)? If so, when he asks for a time to talk, say yes I’ve got 10min at x time. Then when he calls, say ‘Oh hi, I’ve got to get some other work done so we have 10 minutes. What specifically did you want to ask?’ Take control of the conversation, don’t ask him how he is because he’ll start to waffle.

If he asks you how you are etc, just say ‘fine, pretty busy. I’ve got to get on with work so I’ve got 10 minutes’. DO NOT ask him how he is or how things are going.

If you don’t need to help him, tell him you’re really stretched and will be focusing on work and family for a while, so unfortunately you won’t be able to help him any more.

TacoFriday · 06/09/2018 23:08

Is this what you wanted to speak to me about?

Didn’t you have a question?

John? John?! John (or whatever his name is)... you called to ask me something. I’m busy, so you have 30 seconds to ask me and then I’m hanging up.

Hearing people like you whinge that you were forced to listen to a peer for hours gives me the rage.

I think it’s you that has an issue expressing yourself and being assertive, if you make pleasant mmm noises for 20 minutes because you fear the other person might think you were gasp, assertive and valued your time.

NonaGrey · 06/09/2018 23:08

I think I need to take care of my needs/feelings and care less about offending him.

Yes, your are right you do.

But doing that will also take care of his needs. He needs help/advice/support. He’s not getting that from 30 mins of chat about the weather.

In fact I’d suggest that his weather chat/holiday nonsense is a clumsy attempt at relationship building to help him feel less bad about asking you for help. (He doesn’t need to feel guilty about asking if he thinks of you as friends rather than colleagues)

It’s not rude to be clear about your boundaries. It’s not rude to defend them.

He’ll probably feel better about the conversations too - it’s pretty awful to chat away to someone who then responses with silence.

2rebecca · 06/09/2018 23:56

Agree you need to start giving your desires and wants more priority. I hate long phone calls so don't have them. When I start getting bored (huge numbers of people love the sound of their voices and will happily witter away about nothing much for hours not noticing they haven't let the other person get a word in edgeways) I invent a something I need to do now and end the conversation. It's usually largely true because i work so don't have hours to listen to monologues.
Start being abrupt and interrupting him. You may need to put the phone down if he goes on after you've said you need to go "sorry I really must go, bye. Click"
If he's upset it doesn't matter. The worst thing that will happen is he stops talking to you.
Life is short, prioritise people who enhance your life. You don't have to spend your life enhancing the lives of people whose company you dislike.