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Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy; it is democracy. Trump no. 94.

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TheClaws · 05/09/2018 00:41

Quote from Walter Cronkite.

Previous thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3345873-Trump-has-a-Pecker-problem-and-there-is-a-blue-pill-to-make-it-grow-bigger-midterms-Trump-threads-contd

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ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 07:26

'The Urgent Question of Trump and Money Laundering.
How Bruce Ohr, President Trump’s latest Twitter target, fits a suspicious pattern of behavior on Russia.'
www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/opinion/trump-money-laundering-russia-mueller.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=OpEd%20Columnists

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 07:30

'Another Problem for Trump: A 2020 Primary Challenge Is Growing More Likely'
nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/amp/2018/09/will-donald-trump-face-a-primary-challenge-in-2020.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 07:48

'Trump expected to declassify Carter Page and Bruce Ohr documents'
www.axios.com/trump-declassify-carter-page-bruce-ohr-documents-307ff599-df29-49db-ae01-a8b027908b12.html

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 08:04

'D.C. Wise Man Had Early Access to Trump’s Pro-Russia Speech.
Photos obtained by The Daily Beast show that controversial think tank chief Dimitri Simes was closer than previously known to the speech’s drafting.'
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/dc-wise-man-had-early-access-to-trumps-pro-russia-speech#click=t.co/wYwsRWo42k" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.thedailybeast.com/dc-wise-man-had-early-access-to-trumps-pro-russia-speech#click=t.co/wYwsRWo42k

Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
Actually, he helped write it. We already knew this, it's just that many people forgot. The Daily Beast needs to read PROOF OF COLLUSION.

Justin Hendrix
@justinhendrix
Putin ‘Friend’ Dimitri Simes had early access to Donald Trump’s infamous pro-Russia campaign speech in April 2016, per photographs given to law enforcement:
@woodruffbets exclusive- link: thebea.st/2NSGPWJ?source=twitter&via=desktop thebea.st/2NSGPWJ?source… via @thedailybeast
mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1037651937297096706

lionheart · 10/09/2018 08:08

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006?ocid=socialflow_twitter

'Europe and nationalism: A country-by-country guide.'

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 08:09

The Electoral College Must Be Changed - Lawrence Lessig
Washington Watch

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 08:18

'WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY SINGLE ISSUE WE CARE ABOUT — FROM CLIMATE CHANGE TO GUN SAFETY, FROM HEALTH CARE TO MILITARY SPENDING — CANNOT BE FIXED UNTIL WE FIX DEMOCRACY FIRST'

'Equal Citizens — a nonprofit founded by Harvard Law Professor Lawrence Lessig — is dedicated to reforms that will achieve citizen equality. Through a series of projects that aim to restore the core promise of citizen equality in our Constitution, we will end the corruption of our representative democracy.'
equalcitizens.us

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/09/2018 08:27

More stormy weather to test Trump's supply of paper towels. (But in all seriousness, I do hope there isn't another hurricane-related disaster)

Intensifying Hurricane Florence poses extreme threat to Southeast and Mid-Atlantic

Hurricane Florence is tracking toward the East Coast with inevitability rarely seen in storms several days away from landfall. While forecasters were careful to cite “high uncertainty” in recent days, their tone changed after watching the storm’s eventual path barely shift from what they had considered to be a worst-case scenario.
On Sunday evening, as the storm gained strength, the National Hurricane Center was forecasting Florence to become a strong Category 4 storm before making landfall along the Southeast or Mid-Atlantic coast on Thursday.
...
If Florence makes landfall as a Category 4 in North Carolina, it will be the strongest storm to come ashore that far north on record.
Residents along the Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina coasts should continue preparations for a major hurricane landfall and have a plan should they be required to evacuate.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/09/09/florence-strengthens-to-hurricane-and-poses-extreme-threat-to-southeast-and-mid-atlantic/?utm_term=.9b6a019ec092

Gumpendorf · 10/09/2018 08:50

The boiling frog...

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/washington-feels-like-the-capital-of-an-occupied-country/2018/09/07/d116d40c-b2b3-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html

I am listing all these distant foreign events because at the moment they have strange echoes in Washington. Sen. John McCain’s funeral felt like one of those spontaneous political events. As in a dictatorship, people spoke in code: President Trump’s name was not mentioned, yet everybody understood that praise for McCain, a symbol of the dying values of the old Republican Party, was also criticism of the authoritarian populist in the White House. As in an occupied country, people spoke of resistance and renewal in the funeral’s wake. Since then, public officials have also described, anonymously, new forms of “patriotic treason” within the White House and in comments to Bob Woodward and the New York Times. As in an unlawful state, these American officials say they are quietly working “within the system,” in defiance of Trump, for the greater good of the nation.

The result: institutional and administrative chaos; our military chain of command is compromised; people around the elected president feel compelled to act above the law and remove papers from his desk. The mechanisms meant to protect the state from an incompetent or dictatorial president are not being used because people in power no longer believe in them, or are afraid to use them. Washington feels like the capital of a state where the legal order has collapsed because, in some ways, it is.

Gumpendorf · 10/09/2018 10:07

To add emphasis to the point in my previous post that "The legal order has collapsed"
Would Kavanaugh have been acceptable as a Supreme Court Justice if he wasn't there to protect the President who needs protection from his own serial law breaking.

“Under Judge Kavanaugh’s recommendation, if a president shot somebody in cold blood on Fifth Avenue, that president could not be prosecuted while in office,” John Dean, a key witness in the Watergate hearings, testified before the Senate Judiciary Cmte. on.msnbc.com/2CzgNqa

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 11:56

Make it easy on yourself, no regrets if you go away, Scottie:
‘Scott Walker fatigue’ haunts Republicans.
Signs that the Wisconsin governor is ripe to be taken down are everywhere.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/09/10/scott-walker-reelection-wisconsin-governor-813442

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 11:59

'Dem super PACs keep getting bigger as candidates turn on PAC money.
Democrats' biggest outside groups are raising record sums and taking over more and more of the party's functions.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/09/10/democrats-super-pacs-midterms-813439

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 12:09

NYAG Primary:
'SEAN PATRICK MALONEY CALLS ZEPHYR TEACHOUT “UNHINGED” FOR ACCURATELY DESCRIBING HIS VOTING RECORD'
theintercept.com/2018/09/08/zephyr-teachout-sean-patrick-maloney-new-york-attorney-general/

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 12:16

'Merrick Garland asked to probe perjury allegations against Brett Kavanaugh
A Democratic group filed a complaint against Kavanugh for lying before Congress'
www.salon.com/2018/09/09/merrick-garland-asked-to-probe-perjury-allegations-against-brett-kavanaugh/

cozietoesie · 10/09/2018 12:49

Who was it who provided the hurricane threads last year? (I'm looking at Florence and getting a little antsy.)

PerkingFaintly · 10/09/2018 13:10

OYBBK is MN's resident meteorology nerd, but I think she's got a lot on at the moment.

I think there may be a few others, but I can't remember names.

cozietoesie · 10/09/2018 13:29

Thanks, Perking. Smile

ohmymimi · 10/09/2018 13:31

Busy, busy, busy:

Donald Trump - President's Public Schedule

Monday
10 September, 2018
9:00 AM
Pool Call Time In-Town Pool Call Time
In-Town Pool
11:30 AM
President Schedule The President receives his intelligence briefing
Oval OfficeClosed Press
12:30 PM
President Schedule The President has lunch with the Vice President
Private Dining RoomClosed Press
factba.se/topic/calendar

Minimammoth · 10/09/2018 13:48

Surely the Presidents ‘intelligence briefing’ is a contradiction in terms, and may take longer than an hourGrin

Gumpendorf · 10/09/2018 14:34

.@MaddowBlog: As Barack Obama delivers critical critiques of Donald Trump, Mike Pence is "disappointed" that Obama isn't honoring traditions. That's all kinds of wrong. on.msnbc.com/2MjA3ro

What about calling for the DoJ to investigate your predecessor. What tradition is that?

Gumpendorf · 10/09/2018 14:36

He can add this to his security briefing ...

Veteran journalist Bob Woodward said on the @TODAYshow that President Trump is "detached from reality" and jeopardizes American national security.

on.msnbc.com/2QiBiKA