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Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

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Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

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deepsea · 02/09/2018 19:57

Sorry but what kind of role model he is?! Honestly I couldn’t live with someone like this. LTB.
I know it won’t be easy but he is crushing you

Onedayy · 02/09/2018 19:57

You must have hardly known him when you got pregnant.

onetimeposter · 02/09/2018 19:59

I had a much older boyfriend like this once. We went to a trip on the train once and a woman his age (early 50's-very attractive) was talking to us. I said he would be a good match for her and he was honestly genuinely shocked that I thought she was attractive enough for him.
Turned out I was also too old (28 at the time) and his preference was for baby spice looking teenagers. Scary, seeing as he worked in a local college and managed to get out of teaching the A level students because he was answerable to parents, rather doing access courses because he would groom and predate all the vulnerable young girls. I left very quickly once I found this out-told the college but lo and behold he's now head of department.
Utter pervert-get rid. There's no need for him to be in your life. And if you have any sense, keep your kids away from him as well. You actually cannot be sure how 'young' his attraction stretches to, seeing as he likes little girl figures.

ReggieKrayDoYouKnowMyName · 02/09/2018 20:01

I would call my husband out on being a letch if he was commenting on women 20+ years younger than him on the street. He sounds horrible!

mathanxiety · 02/09/2018 20:06

The over feeding sounds deliberate, and his reaction to you asking him to stop sounds calculated to make you back down and give in to him. It's not how a decent human being would react.
Anouk

YY to this, and it is a sign of a complete lack of boundaries on his part to make someone eat more than they want to. Men without boundaries are dangerous.

Think about it - he is making you put something into your body that you do not want to. He is eroding your physical boundaries with every bite he forces you to take.

Beautifulblue · 02/09/2018 20:06

Hope you don't have a daughter with him so he can spew this kind of sexiest, sleezy shit at her. She'll never feel good enough, even if she is slim & fit. OP you're not big, you're pregnant & even if you were big f**k him because his not perfect! No one is! My mum used to have a boyfriend like this & he was such a massive douche I hated him. It's so shallow, as mentioned above I really hope he has some serious redeeming factors because I couldn't stomach being around a man like this for an hour let alone for life. I feel for you, good luck with your pregnancy. Flowers & eat cake Cake

CallipygousElephant · 02/09/2018 20:08

My first ever LTB. He sounds like a vile, lecherous old creep.

deepsea · 02/09/2018 20:10

Is he

auditqueen · 02/09/2018 20:12

He's a better man than I'm making him sound

No, he's really not.

I really, really hope that you have left him by the time your daughter notices his misogynistic attitudes to women. And although I don't really approve of keeping children from one parent - in some cases there's a really good argument to do so, and his ex wife has one.

mathanxiety · 02/09/2018 20:13

I am interested in the fact that this relationship is so new but you have clearly moved in, got involved in his family and he with your DD, and are already pregnant.

This cycle of settling into a very mature stage of a relationship before really completing any groundwork is typical of men who are abusive. Eagerness to embark on a full-on relationship is a red flag that you are involved with an abuser. In particular, pregnancy early in a relationship is cause for serious examination of the motives of the man involved.

Ever heard the phrase 'barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen'? It refers to keeping a woman on the backfoot by making huge demands on her energy and time, via pregnancy/baby care or other means. In your case he really is piling your plate high.

FranticallyPeaceful · 02/09/2018 20:14

Oh my God. I’m so sorry people like this exist. You’re growing a human and will put on weight, probably a lot of it, and that’s perfectly fine and healthy. Please don’t lose weight when pregnant, you are beautiful as you are

Nerolily · 02/09/2018 20:14

Yeah he was very lovely to begin with. I know it sounds mad to have been together for a year and be in this situation but he is very loving and devoted just also happens to be a sexist feeder with an awful attitude towards women bodies. He really does love me I've no doubt about that and our blended family makes a lot of sense on many levels. But I've said to him, if he doesn't find me attractive any more - it's a deal breaker. His response to that is 'of course I do' but then there is silence until he see's someone else to comment on, I get upset about it and we have the same argument again.

Question: how often do your partners/DH's compliment you? Or say something nice about your appearance?

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buckingfrolicks · 02/09/2018 20:15

Good god the utter shite that some people put up with is astounding. Your daughter will suffer growing up with that misogynistic ignorant selfish entitled shit of a father.

XiCi · 02/09/2018 20:16

You've been together less than a year, are pregnant, and are basically starving your unborn child to the point where you are fainting in order to conform to his ideal woman's body shape. For fucks sake open your eyes as to how fucked up this relationship is.

HelenaDove · 02/09/2018 20:19

Nero im sorry but he DOESNT love you.

When this cunt is an old man and needs help to get off the commode i bet he suddenly wont care what the care workers dress size is.

Nancydrawn · 02/09/2018 20:19

My husband tells me I'm beautiful every day, even when I know he's lying. (Objectively--e.g. when I have the flu.)

However, the strength of our relationship is not based on audible compliments. It's based on mutual respect and genuine appreciation of the other as a person. There is no such thing, as far as I'm concerned, as loving me while being a sexist who has an awful attitude towards women. That would be antithetical to truly loving me.

And I certainly wouldn't allow a daughter to be exposed to it.

mathanxiety · 02/09/2018 20:22

He is fitting the abuser profile more and more every time you post details about him, Nerolily.

Lovebomb to begin with, hook the prize, then slowly (or actually pretty quickly in your case) begin to destroy your self esteem, make you doubt your perceptions, confuse you by loving gestures interspersed with remarks that are designed to damage you.

But I've said to him, if he doesn't find me attractive any more - it's a deal breaker. His response to that is 'of course I do' but then there is silence until he see's someone else to comment on, I get upset about it and we have the same argument again.
This is emotional and psychological abuse.

He has found what makes you feel terrible about yourself, your weak spot, and he is using it against you.

You have said it's a dealbreaker but you stick around waiting for a crumb of approval.

Close you eyes and let yourself imagine a puppet dangled on a string. Or a cat trying to catch the red dot.

Or a woman dangling on a window sill high above the ground. Someone approaches and pretends to extend a hand to help her but then answers his phone instead and leaves her hanging. This happens many times.

Sunflowerr · 02/09/2018 20:22

Eugh. Yack.

HelenaDove · 02/09/2018 20:23

you should go have a coffee and a chat with his ex wife I bet it would be a really enlightening chat.

XiCi · 02/09/2018 20:24

How old are you OP? and what have your past relationships been like? From what you say he is clearly not loving or devoted. For what it's worth I've been with my DH 25 years and he has never once leched over another woman's body in front of me. Not once. And due to illness I've put on probably about 3 stone since we very first met and he has never wavered in telling me how attractive i am. Your story of starving yourself while pregnant to please him is incredibly disturbing

mathanxiety · 02/09/2018 20:24
  • I forgot to add, make sure you are stuck and tied to him and in need of his support by getting you pregnant as soon as he could.

The pregnancy also supplied him with plenty to use against you, in a way that is very cruel.

Italiangreyhound · 02/09/2018 20:25

OP i am sorry but he sounds like a total nobhead and I wrote that when I was only on the second paragraph.

  1. He late forties and overweight yet " He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them."

"and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are." He just sounds really unpleasant. Hope you don't end up with a plump daughter, he will destroy her self confidence

Missingstreetlife · 02/09/2018 20:25

Do his kids live with you? Has his ex got eating disorder? Does he still want sex or display physical Affection?

He does sound like a complete cheeky fucker, idiot.
You need to get really angry and tell him how unacceptable and inappropriate his behaviour is

If you want him to perve on you, train him like a dog, give him a target of one compliment (or 6, whatever) a day and a reward him with some little attention. If he doesn't do it ignore him, don't do anything to please him, don't even speak to him

Nerolily · 02/09/2018 20:25

@nancydrawn that sounds so sweet.

And I really know what you mean when it comes to other forms of expression, words are not the only way. I feel I have mutual respect on all subjects except for this one, and I feel genuinely appreciated in all ways except appearance.

This is why I need to hear the words so badly. And why the things he does say about other people hurt and anger me so much. Those are the only verbal things I get.

The physical and unspoken things are good. The verbal are awful.

I agree though, this attitude may well be incompatible with loving someone. As in I don't know if I can love him if he thinks this way.

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Italiangreyhound · 02/09/2018 20:26
  1. RE the food. Tell him to stop. Just cook smaller portions for both of you. If he gets upset, he gets upset.

  2. Compliments, I love to tell him all the complaints you get, real or imagined, but it is just game playing and he doesn't sound worth it.

  3. He is no longer married to his ex wife so why are you worrying about her?

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