Drive at the speed limit

[OldSpeclkledHen]

I am sick to bloody death of drivers who refuse to drive upto the speed limit.

Ffs if it's 60mph speed limit - drive at fucking 60 -NOT 30 🤬🤬

Three times I have been out driving since last night, EVERY fucking time on 3 different journeys I have been stuck behind some freaking twat who cannot drive upto the speed limit, or overtake a fucking cyclist (but that's another rant)

I am by no means a girl racer, but FFS get out of my fucking way.

Aaaaaand breathe.

This summer a biker died on A road. He was overtaking a car but miscalculated an oncoming van. Not to go into the van he turned left and went into the tree.

Guaranteed you won't

Guaranteed I will - I'm a driving instructor.

Haven’t read thread.

My DD was in a horrific crash yesterday. Car skidded on greasy road, hit a wall, rolled to its roof, slid along on its side.

She walked away with cuts and bruises.

If she had been doing the speed limit she would be dead. So, YABU.

SHES NOT SOME FREAKING TWAT. she’s a young lady who drove at the speed for the road conditions and still had an accident. The police are ascribing no fault to her - road conditions were greasy, she was driving 20mph below the limit.

Wind your fucking neck in and calm down - people like you up the ass of young drivers are a bloody menace.

Twatty how were you failed for driving at 48 in a 60 sitting your driving test? Learners are restricted to 45 are they not?

Guaranteed I will - I'm a driving instructor.

Not a very good one then. Every examiner and instructor I know says that hesitating will get you a fail, and driving slower than you should for the road is hesitating. I was even told that after my test, which I passed because I didn't hesitate in a situation that others would have and they would have failed.

This summer a biker died on A road. He was overtaking a car but miscalculated an oncoming van. Not to go into the van he turned left and went into the tree.

What has that to do with anything?

Bloodylucky, some people don't understand. Hope you daughter is ok today. Must be so shaken.

What has that to do with anything?

Impatience with the other drivers. Overconfidence.

SHES NOT SOME FREAKING TWAT. she’s a young lady who drove at the speed for the road conditions and still had an accident. The police are ascribing no fault to her - road conditions were greasy, she was driving 20mph below the limit.

Accidents have causes. Of course in the wet/ice/poor visibility judgements have to be made about what is the appropriate speed. I’m sorry about your daughter’s accident but it sounds like she was still going too fast for the road conditions and found out the hard way.

well The police disagree. She suddenly came upon slurry on the road. Braked and skidded. But sure. You carry on.

Impatience with the other drivers.
Overconfidence.

Bikers are vulnerable on the road. My husband rides. The number of drivers who don’t see him (usually because they don’t bother checking their blind spot) is staggering. He has to second guess every other motorist. He’s a careful rider.

A friend is in it for the speed. He’s misjudged things twice and almost died once.

In leathers and on a normal road you wouldn’t be able to tell which was which 90% of the time.

Oh and approproate yourself.

She came round a corner, doing approx 40 according to the police, there was slurry across the road and she braked. That caused her to skid.

You are massively out of order. The road conditions were the problem. Not her speed.

Is she supposed to be physchic?

Patronising nasty and really very very unpleasant.

You owe me an apology. How DARE you comment that when you haven’t a clue? Do you know better than the police who were at the scene? Via the Internet? Wow. That’s some skillz. You should hire out your psychic skills and ability to determine cause of accident over the Internet. You’d make a mint. And be wrong, of course, but sure what does that matter when it’s only over the Internet.

she braked. That caused her to skid.

It would. If she’d pumped the brakes instead she may not have skidded. Had she done so she may still not have stopped in time because she was going too fast for the road conditions she was about to experience. Could have been a deer in the road or a broken down car. Not foreseeable, but she evidently couldn’t react appropriately or quickly enough, hence the skid.

It wasn’t an act of god.

Slurry is liquid shit. Any kind of braking is likely to cause a skid. It’s illegal not to clean the road if you spill slurry on it for a reason.

But you do carry oN.

I live on the edge of Dartmoor. Even our local "main" road is single track and twisty and hilly. Lots of caravans, tractors, cyclists and horse riders, sometimes random sheep in the road etc. You also get tourists driving slowly because they don't know where to turn off or they're admiring the view!

I drive generally to the speed limit (and faster than my DH) but there are lots of places on that road where it is not safe to do 60 because it's so bendy and you can't see what's round the corner.

Yesterday I was heading uphill on the bendiest bit of road and there were two cyclists ahead of me, riding abreast of each other. It was not safe to pull out and overtake them, there was one blind bend after another and there is a solid white line for no overtaking. (There are lots of overtaking accidents on that road) I slowed right down, second gear and crawled uphill behind them for over a mile. Meanwhile a queue of about five cars formed behind me. The guy two cars behind was going mad, beeping and driving on the bumper of the car in front and snaking out over the line looking to overtake.

After a mile or so we reached the bit where the road opens out straighter, the white line is dotted and I could finally see ahead. I immediately pulled out, sped up and safely overtook the cyclists, and so did all the traffic behind me. Mr Impatient, two cars behind, then accelerated to about 80 (60 limit there) and overtook all of us and nearly got hit head on by a camper van coming the other way whose driver must have had palpitations. I'm sure I wasn't the only driver present who was muttering "what an arsehole!"

Yet I'm sure if you asked Mr Impatient he would tell you I was the dangerous one, slowing down like that and refusing to try to overtake the cyclists earlier!

If you don’t know what slurry is, I’d suggest you stop opining.

If you don’t know what slurry is, I’d suggest you stop opining.

It’s cow shit. I don’t know enough about cow shit to know whether digested grass is greasy. It was a perfectly reasonable question.

Do you know better than the police who were at the scene? Via the Internet? Wow. That’s some skillz. You should hire out your psychic skills and ability to determine cause of accident over the Internet. You’d make a mint. And be wrong, of course, but sure what does that matter when it’s only over the Internet.

I’m an ex insurance claims handler.

But do carry on.

And by the way, the police have no say about how insurance companies classify accidents either.

There's a long stretch of road about 3 miles from the motorway to my house that is a 40 road. EVERY DAY going to work there is someone in front of me doing 30 and it drives me mad. There are small 40 signs probably every 200m on this road and yes there is a speed camera on it but the people doing 30 seem to slow to 25 when they come to the camera. Every day I find myself through grated teeth muttering 'its a fucking 40 road dickhead'. Annoys me so much.

Of course whenever I'm not trying to get to work there's no one on the road or someone ahead doing 50.

Some people feel safe at driving at 60 or more. But there is a point where regardless of the speed limit that we don't feel as in control of the car than we did when we were driving a few mph slower. That point is different for everyone.

I'm sorry, but anyone who doesn't feel safe driving at 60, in a modern car, in good conditions, on a reasonable road, shouldn't be driving. Are they going to still do 50 or 55 on a dual carriageway or motorway?

Our speed limit is lower than in many European countries. A lot of people, including senior police officers, feel that the limit on dual carriageways and motorways is too low. These speed limits were set when cars had shite brakes, no ABS, tyre technology was nowhere near as advanced, and no airbags or crumple zones. Stopping distance in a modern car is much less than in a Morris 1000, all other factors being equal.

I drive on rural roads almost every day. I don't generally get exasperated by slow drivers, I get that not everyone knows the roads as well as I do and there are a few places where the bends are deceptive (the classic diminishing radius bend can catch anyone out if they're unaware). I take account of the fact that they may be looking for a turning or the driveway to a house. I respect that they slow down for the bend with a school exit just beyond it, even if they slow down far more than I feel is necessary.

But I get royally pissed off by some drivers who I see regularly on one particular road, who do 40 for 5-6 miles on a 50mph road, find it necessary to brake every time a car comes the other way, slow right down for even the gentlest bend and cannot, simply cannot, overtake a cyclist, even when they can see 200 yards ahead.

And if you are the 30-ish woman driving a black Ford Kuga in East Sussex between 9.20 and 9.40 on weekday mornings during termtime, I mean you! But you're not the only one.

Haven't read the whole thread but could I just chuck in here those that pull out from a side road (rural) in front of me when I am driving on a main road at say 50. I have to slam on the brakes to avoid an accident and then they potter on at about 35. Happens all the time around here. The road is always clear behind me - why couldn't they wait???