To think the gov should be giving some proper advice re booking flights and holidays for next year post Brexit

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I had no idea re the open skies issue or that insurance companies won't be insuring cancellations caused by Brexit. Having seen two threads on MN discussing it,I now do.

Not everybody can afford to lose the cost of holidays and flights,many need to book now for next summer as flights get released.

It's a bit late and a bit shit that consumers aren't getting warnings or advice.

Nutters on here if you think they'll be no flights to and from the EU 😂

Businesses in Northern Ireland who do business in the rest of Ireland have been told to contact Dublin for information on what they should do after Brexit ffs.

I heard, from a reliable source, that Heathrow has contingency plans to close for two months after Brexit.

Can anyone else remember the chaos in 2010 when airports were closed for (only) a few days because of the ash cloud from Iceland? It wasn't fun (was stuck in another country & had to hire the last available car for a 2 day drive back home).

Woodpigeon that was in the news a little while ago.

The FT reported last week that Heathrow has taken the precaution of raising nearly £1bn in debt to keep it going through a 'worst-case' scenario, ie closure for up to two months.

Like beachbodyunready we've taken the precaution of booking a cottage in the UK next August.

The travel companies will definitely be hit by the uncertainty, whatever happens. Many people will be waiting and seeing or choosing to stay in the UK next year.

Workwise though we're as clueless as everyone else. We are planning next year's business in the optimistic belief that imports/exports won't be affected because what else can you do?

Also, what about travel insurance? I always take out insurance the minute we book, some family members have annual cover. But a lot of policies ask you to deploy your EHIC card where possible. Presumably the EHIC will be useless on Brexit, and insurers may seek to increase costs?

“ the world won't end if consumers don't go on holidays. Consumers losing money when it could have been avoided is a whole other issue.”

As is the issue of huge numbers of people employed in the travel industry and it’s related economies. Massive job losses.

Poloshot - why nutters? Senior government ministers and the PM keep saying no deal Brexit is a possibility they would accept. No deal Brexit means we are out of deals and arrangements that means planes are able to take off and land in the UK. Those will have to be negotiated. No deal means there's no deal on those.

Brexit is due to happen the week before schools break up for Easter. A lot of people go away at Easter, and it hasn't been all that well explained that no deal means no flights.

Also, what about travel insurance?

Bound by the same laws of Frustration of contract - there'll be exclusion clauses tucked away, absolving them if liability.

We have booked to go to Grance next August, just made sure we chose accomodation that can be refunded. Will book flights as soon as it opens as they aren’t much. I desperately want to go abroad, we missed it this year. I wouldn’t book somewhere expensive though. I do find these threads somewhat hysterical but I also think it would be foolish to deny there are any problems coming up.

I have family who have already book flights and paid accommodation for very late March early April - apparently they were completely oblivious to there possibly being problems. They then insisted if there might be problems someone would have said.

Booking for Wales are apparently up 70% on last year - which could be an issue for us as we do UK holidays and that was where we were looking for next year.

bigkite - similar, everyone I've mentioned it too hadn't thought that leave would mean trouble with flights immediately afterwards. That international travel next Easter might be tricky hasn't been on many people's radar (and many don't know roughly when we leave)

What "No deal" means in practice needs to be spelt out.

Things aren't just going to carry on, and holidays, short life span foods (like fresh fruit and veg), and petrol will be the ones that will effect most people. The other stuff probably won't be felt by the majority in the short term enough to link it to leaving.

Just worth noting that arrivals into the EU from 3rd countries may need visas and a criminal record check (which could result in being refused entry).

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-nationals/index_en.htm

eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32001R0539

Travel to Ireland should be unaffected. But travel from there into another EU country will fall under the above.

Maybe I should be doing Raabs job ?

As a kicker, since the carrier is liable for the costs of returning a refused entrant (plus any fines), it's highly likely a lot of carriers will simply play safe, and refuse to carry passengers that can't be guaranteed entry. Part of the EUs hostile environment for immigrants.

They can't, people voted to walk off the cliff and now expect others to catch them.

No government could have delivered what those voters expected, walkaway the next day, there was absolutely no idea of how things would go after the vote, this was new territory for every country in the EU!
Good luck folks, you're getting what you wanted.