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Original poster

To think that my (upcoming) landlord should pay to put me in a hotel?

260 replies

RogelioMyBrogelio · 27/08/2018 08:32

I’m due to move into a flat next Monday, but unfortunately I’ve had a call today to say that the upstairs flat has had a burst pipe and my (soon to be) flat has significant damage to the ceiling, walls and electrics. An insurance assessor is coming tomorrow apparently, but my new (upcoming) landlord says I won’t be moving in next week by the looks of it. I’ve asked if she can put me up in a hotel until then, as my current tenancy ends next week too. She has said no as the new tenancy hasn’t started so she doesn’t have me covered on her insurance, and I also haven’t signed a contract (she did send me one but I was just gonna leave it until the day I moved in to sign it). I have given her a month’s deposit, which she has protected and is offering to send back to me today out her own pocket so I don’t have to claim, but what I really want is to be in that flat! a contract has been drawn up and dated 2 weeks ago so AIBU to think that the protections stipulated in that contract should apply to me (it says in the case of emergencies that the landlord will put the tenants up in a hotel)

OP posts:
lidoshuffle · 27/08/2018 17:06

''I don’t like prejudice towards people of any age...Actually the older generation have fucked over the younger generation in many ways" Hmm

Somanymistakes · 27/08/2018 17:11

@drJava

Sorry. I didn't make it clear earlier but I think she may be in 30's. Easy for replies to get lost.

GrinWink

AllyMcBeagle · 27/08/2018 17:12

I pay £70 more per month for my current property, I asked if new landlord was able to cover this for September and she said no, I’ll probably get told I’m being cheeky but I actually think it’s the least she could have done.

Actually, that's the most she could have been expected to do if you had signed the contract!

Somanymistakes · 27/08/2018 17:12

EVERYONE! Stop arguing about age.

You are getting distracted from CF-ing!

Think there is an age false-flag post on this thread.

Timeisslippingaway · 27/08/2018 17:13

*@RogelioMyBrogelio
Why the fuck would she sign the contract when her flat is unusable? Moreover you have shown yourself as being sneaky and dishonest and have asked her for money she has no need to give you.

I can't believe you are side eyeing her as though she is the dodgy one!

I'd drop you as a tenant straightaway. You really don't think you are entitled in anyway do you? Do you resent all Landlords?*

^this
You sound very entitled. Why on earth would she let you sign a contract now when you have been this sneaky so you could cover your own back. Shit happens and you were silly not to sign the contract because it had not worked out well for you.

LIZS · 27/08/2018 17:23

Ll cannot sign the contract now as they have no idea at present of the extent of damage or any timescale for repair. Accept that it is simply no longer available for the present and decide whether you want to wait it out indefinitely or look elsewhere. If you have no budget to tie you over then how would you propose to fund any legal action.

myrtleWilson · 27/08/2018 17:27

I'm so looking forward to the LL coming on with her own thread regarding the absolute CF of their potential future tenant...

mumsastudent · 27/08/2018 17:37

did the op realize that the ll would have had to pay part of the cost not covered by the insurance as well? no not her problem but it shows the ll as being a decent person. by the by if she was actually renting from some housing associations & council … now their treatment of tenants is dire - & takes forever to sort things out & from what I have heard (from close friend as tenant) the tenants have to sort out alternative accommodation even if the ha or c pay for it -

optimusprimesmother · 27/08/2018 17:58

@RogelioMyBrogelio

You have cracked me up!! Your last update was brilliant and should go down in MN fuckery history!

You have zero chance of moving in that flat 🙈😂😂

thereareflowersinmygarden · 27/08/2018 18:02

Surprised she still wants you as s tenant - I wouldn't!

PalePinkSwan · 27/08/2018 18:31

Sincerely hope the landlord is currently on a landlord forum asking for advice, and is being told by everybody on there that you will be a nightmare tenant. I’m a landlord and wouldn’t rent to you after you’d been so ridiculous asking for compensation.

Glumglowworm · 27/08/2018 18:43

Of course the LL can’t sign a contract when she has no idea when the flat will be inhabitable!

And no she doesn’t bloody well owe you the extra £70 for your rent this month. You didn’t sign the fucking contract! She owes you exactly nothing except your deposit back which she offered immediately!

Your LL has behaved impeccably here. I very much hope she’s getting advice to get rid of you and your CFery!

(Private tenant here, so not biased towards LL or against tenants at all).

I can’t believe OP is still trying to justify her attempts to get money out of this woman!

F1reintheWh0le · 27/08/2018 19:38

I've rented for several years. Just ask yourself WHY would you want to move into a property that has just had water damage and need repair (could take months). Take your deposit and find somewhere else. The LL has no responsibility surely to house you. I'm sure there are plenty of other places to rent in your area. Things happen in life, you need to plan and be flexible !

eddielizzard · 27/08/2018 19:49

Regardless of how long the repairs take, if I were your LL I'd be making damn sure they took more than a month and giving you your deposit back. Let's hope one day you see the light.

RebelRogue · 27/08/2018 20:02

Did you seriously asked her to pay YOU? And you think you're entitled to it because that's what you could've saved?

MilkybarGrownup · 27/08/2018 20:10

@RebelRogue that was my thoughts too.

Now I have to say it. I need to....

OP, Are you on glue????

anothernameagain000 · 27/08/2018 20:41

Back in the real world - you actually want to be put up in a shit hotel paying rent (Because op even if you were a tenant you still pay the rent) storing your furniture god knows where, living out of suitcase... when you have the option to get your money back and look elsewhere. You must be out of your fucking mind. (Oh and he’s top cf)

sprinklesandsauce · 27/08/2018 20:54

OP, I was going to suggest asking current LL if you could stay on and I see you have done that.

No, the new LL doesn’t owe you anything. You didn’t have a signed AST and you hadn’t paid any rent.

You could have signed the AST but didn’t, to suit yourself. You can’t have it both ways when it goes wrong. You just have to suck up the extra £70 for another month.

You should be happy that your new LL is such a decent person to deal with.

MilkybarGrownup · 27/08/2018 21:27

I don't know if you're aware OP but IF the Landlord put you up in a hotel (they are liable for the hotel bills only) you still have to pay her the agreed rent amount each month. And you would have to spend a crazy amount of money on dining in the hotel restaurant or a local cafe every day because you don't have a kitchen. Saving £70 a month by having new LL pay your hotel while you pay her the new house's rent would barely cover your meals and of course storage fees for your furniture.

Tistheseason17 · 27/08/2018 21:58

Wow, OP.
Just what type of CF are you?
Entitled, much, eh?
I hope the Daily Fail picks the post up so your landlord can find out what you're like and ditch your sorry ass before you move in.
Thinking about litigation from a situation YOU caused?
You are VFU.

LaGruffaloGrumble · 27/08/2018 22:01

I think your LL will definitely have repairs needing the month so you’ll have to go elsewhere.

After that £70 request I’d be making sure of it if I was her.

KnightofWands · 28/08/2018 17:49

YABVU. Not only did you not sign a contract but your motivation for not signing appears to be that you delayed signing because there was a risk that you would not want to proceed with it!. (Ok, I understand why but the desire for landlord/lady to reimburse you / put you up is unreasonable).
The landlord has faced an unanticipated risk (not covered by insurance - probably because there is no signed contract BTW if he/she has specific insurance to cover this sort of event).
Return of deposit plus perhaps first refusal when the flat is habitable again seems reasonable - more seems wholly unreasonable

Technonan · 28/08/2018 17:51

She sounds like a really good and conscientious landlord, and you sound like the potential tenant from hell.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 28/08/2018 18:44

If the landlord has any sense they will heed the warning signs and when the property is repaired find themselves different tenants.

This is a obvious red light for a future tenant from hell.

Racecardriver · 28/08/2018 18:46

I can't remember whether there are any land law stipulations but under contract law your contract is already in force (acceptance was by conduct, you paid and she accepted the funds and put them in the required scheme).