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Trump has a Pecker problem and there is a blue pill to make it grow bigger - midterms! Trump threads contd.

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ohmymimi · 24/08/2018 21:10

Titled with Across in mind Wink

May all the Oaf's problems be big ones, and the events of this week at least be the beginning of the beginning of the end.

Old thread:
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Gumpendorf · 25/08/2018 13:15

I got distracted by claig and the media but came to post this which is a useful aid for remembering who is doing what in the legal world.

Trump has a Pecker problem and there is a blue pill to make it grow bigger - midterms! Trump threads contd.
ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 13:18

Thanks, lettuce, curtsySmile I was stuck on the sofa with a sore back, so had plenty of thinking time. 'Pecker' was just too good an opportunity to missGrin

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CaveMum · 25/08/2018 13:42

Anyone else seen the suspicious “Melania” footage on Twitter?

I have to agree, that does not look like Melania, unless she’s gained weight overnight....

twitter.com/itisimack/status/1033066293501603840?s=21

Gumpendorf · 25/08/2018 13:44

“The base didn’t think Nixon was “our guy”. They do think Trump is their guy. If Trump goes down so do they”.

www.ft.com/content/6a4fb744-a781-11e8-926a-7342fe5e173f

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/08/2018 13:51

claig was fascinating. I remember I once managed to reach an agreement with them where I could create a thread without them posting all over it. They did honour that agreement which I still oddly appreciate.

CaveMum · 25/08/2018 14:52

Like this!

Trump has a Pecker problem and there is a blue pill to make it grow bigger - midterms! Trump threads contd.
ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 14:57

It must be Melanie, CaveMumGrin,
It is odd, though. From the side the chin definitely looks wrong, the hair appears very different, and she seem sort of bulky. I have never studied her walk or handshake, though. However, these snippets of film can be deceptive and some tinkering is very easy nowadays. What would be the point, as it was her getting on for the flight, and her at the school visit? Seems like a lot of trouble for what?

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ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 15:00

flight Marine One flight, that is.

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AcrossthePond55 · 25/08/2018 15:54

That's the first footage I've seen where I really thought "that is NOT her". Apparently the footage boarding is defo her, it's the footage disembarking that doesn't look like her. Bizarre. Almost makes me wonder if they keep a double on hand because she's starting to balk at playing Mrs Nice-Girl. Was she at the rally?

I would really, REALLY love to see inside her head these days. Many trophy wives turn a blind eye to their husband's cheating as long as their noses aren't rubbed in it. But how humiliating that it's blasted all over the world that your husband has paid off TWO women (that we know of) he's had affairs with.

It must be one hell of a pre-nup to keep her there. I know Marla walked away with next to nothing so it's obvious his attorneys can draft an air tight one and he obviously can lie with the best of them; "Oh baby, you know you're the one, the only one I've ever loved, it's simply a formality, you know, to protect YOU.....so just sign right here".

lionheart · 25/08/2018 16:39

I don't even know what to say about this.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/giraffes-wildlife-extinction-trophy-hunting-bones-skin-a8506841.html

lionheart · 25/08/2018 16:43

This would be something.

robertreich.org/post/177349093095

'Suppose these findings are so compelling that even Trump loyalists desert him, the Republican Party decides it has had enough, and Fox News calls for his impeachment.

What then? Impeachment isn’t enough.

Impeachment would remedy Trump’s “high crimes and misdemeanors.” But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency.

The only response to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it. Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 25/08/2018 17:13

‘Is this Watergate or Peyton Place?’: Clinton impeachment question shadows Congress in Trump era


www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/is-this-watergate-or-peyton-place-clinton-impeachment-question-shadows-congress-in-trump-era/2018/08/25/9d83f0a6-a7c4-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html?utm_term=.df0b91fb0c2f

At the outset of the 1998 impeachment hearings, Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) asked a memorable question that could resonate for some lawmakers today: “Is this Watergate or Peyton Place?”
“Peyton Place” was a steamy soap opera from the 1960s, based on a 1950s novel of the same name. The final judgment, based on the outcome of that impeachment process, was that President Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky was much more a soap opera than something close to the Watergate scandal that drove Richard M. Nixon from the Oval Office.
Graham, a House member who later won a Senate seat in 2002, reflected on what happened during the Clinton case for lessons on how to handle today’s investigations that have ensnared President Trump.
He is one of 31 senators who had a sense of deja vu last week as prosecutors secured a guilty plea from Trump’s former lawyer, Michael Cohen, who implicated the president in a scheme to buy the silence of women who allegedly had affairs with Trump.
Of those current senators, 17 were in the Senate at the time of the Clinton impeachment and voted as jurors in the 1999 trial; 14 served in the House and voted on the articles of impeachment in December 1998 before eventually winning seats in the Senate. Two senators, Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), now the minority leader, and Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), participated in both processes, having won Senate races in November 1998.
Twenty years ago, Clinton was accused of lying in a deposition and before a grand jury about the affair with the White House intern and trying to obstruct justice.

The underlying Trump case involves accusations of whether his 2016 campaign colluded with Russian operatives to undermine his opponent, Hillary Clinton. But the Cohen outcome felt familiar to those in Congress during Bill Clinton’s impeachment.
As lawmakers consider what happens next, some are invariably reflecting on their past views of Clinton.


AcrossthePond55 · 25/08/2018 17:14

There's not a constitutional provision for 'nullifying' an election though, lion, no matter what Reich proposes. I remember this being discussed right after the election, when the realization of Russian meddling really caught fire. Each member of the administration would have to be impeached or otherwise removed based on their own misdeeds. Although if the POTUS and VP were both removed, chances are the new POTUS would replace the cabinet with his own appointees. Whether or not they would be any better, who knows until/if we get there.

As far as any legislation, it's highly likely that when Scrotus is out of office any new POTUS will swiftly sign EOs to reverse at least part of the idiocy that Scrotus has done by EO. Congress can do the rest if we have the numbers.

I think our Founding Fathers just couldn't foresee such corruption in a presidential administration and so didn't make provisions for a 'do over' as it were. This whole debacle has shown us how weak our 'checks and balances' really are.

Minimammoth · 25/08/2018 17:53

Has a presidency ever been annulled before?

lionheart · 25/08/2018 18:20

Wishful thinking. Smile

lionheart · 25/08/2018 18:27

Chuck and Lindsay.

shareblue.com/chuck-grassley-abandons-principles-trump-scotus/

Sen. Lindsay Graham: “I cannot in good conscience support Donald Trump.” May 6, 2016.

Graham now, as retweeted by Trump:

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

'.@LindseyGrahamSC “Every President deserves an Attorney General they have confidence in. I believe every President has a right to their Cabinet, these are not lifetime appointments. You serve at the pleasure of the President.”'

ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 19:21

If only:
The only response to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it. Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency

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ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 19:24

Was anything said about amending the Constitution?

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cozietoesie · 25/08/2018 19:30

You mean at the constitutional convention which I've long seen a-coming?

ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 19:33

Premature postAngry
Was anything said about amending the Constitution? Across ? Can that not be done if a Constitutional Convention is called, or by a super majority in both Houses? I can't remember much else about the process. Surely there might be an impetus to address all the issues this abnormal presidency is throwing up?

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ohmymimi · 25/08/2018 19:38

Good conscienceHmm Chuck and Lindsey's are curled up somewhere in the dark recesses of the where their souls were, weeping.

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Hertha · 25/08/2018 19:43

Warning - upsetting video of child being reunited with his mother post-detention

mobile.twitter.com/ACLU/status/1033084026893070338/video/1