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AIBU?

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To feel that there's something immoral about Cow Pie?

100 replies

JellySlice · 23/08/2018 14:23

We ate out last night, and almost everyone in our group ordered a half-portion of Cow Pie. A delicious pie, handmade with local beef.

But a half-portion is made with half a kilo of beef. The amount I would put in a pie to serve four people.

It makes me feel very uncomfortable.

(And no, not uncomfortable in the sense of indigestion. I ordered a different dish.)

OP posts:
Nesssie · 23/08/2018 15:02

TheFaerieQueene It was a one off meal, you are completely overreacting

ADastardlyThing · 23/08/2018 15:08

"Meat is a luxury. This feels like entitlement, like abuse of a luxury. Greed"

Eating out is a luxury too you know, and entitlement.

Faerie I assume you only eat the very bare minimum of most boring food to survive. Good for you! How did it feel typing that post out on an electronic device some people will never be able to afford?

gamerchick · 23/08/2018 15:10

It is greed. I couldnt be friends with someone who is greedy. I find it really unpleasant

See now I have a picture in my head of someone going out for a rare meal, turning their mouth into a slit and declaring NC at the end of it because the portion sizes were big.

It's really not a dumping friends worthy complaint man!

DerekTheBrave · 23/08/2018 15:10

No different to a 32oz steak or a massive pile of chicken wings

Who the fuck actually orders a 32oz steak though?

Portion control is not a strength of mine and i’m easily able to put away a big meal of steak, chips and salad in a pub...but that’s a ‘normal’ 8oz steak. The thought of 32oz in one sitting is 🤢 YANBU op.

StrippingLLamaWhisperer · 23/08/2018 15:12

YABU. I eat a low carb diet, I do a manual job and need 2800cals a day, but carbs and sugar put me on a bloodsugar rollercoaster that makes me feel bad an encourages overeating in order to keep the rollercoaster peaking all day. 500g beef garnished with veg is a perfectly acceptable meal.

Salmakia · 23/08/2018 15:16

YANBU the reason meat is so widely accessible and is no longer seen as a luxury product is factory farming which is incredibly cruel. That much meat in one meal is immoral.

OctaviaOctober · 23/08/2018 15:16

We are getting used to bigger portions these days. But as others have said, nothing compared to the USA (yet at least). In New York I ordered a corned beef sandwich and it was as if someone opened a tin of corned beef and just plonked the whole thing inbetween two pieces of bread! I took more than half of it back to the hotel for dinner.

Charolais · 23/08/2018 15:17

We always ask for a box to take most our food home for the next day and sometimes beyond. (U.S)

I feel it my duty to remind everyone, meat is murder.

Charolais · 23/08/2018 15:18

I missed out the word *is

FanWithoutAGuard · 23/08/2018 15:20

I think meat expectations very much vary between families. I would take a 400g pack of mince, and that would make a meal and a half's worth of food - so spag bol for the 4 of us, with some leftovers for tomorrow's lunch.

DP's mum think's that's the right amount of meat for 2 people (she uses a lot less tomato!). Similarly for fish or anything else - the amount she uses for one person, I would use for 2-4 (depending on the dish).

I do find that when I eat out in a pub in the UK, I have plenty to share, so in your pie example, I'd share with my eldest son, and we'd both have about the right amount.

when it comes to steak, we'd normally split an 800g steak between the 4 of us for dinner, so I do agree, that 1/2 pie size is pretty ridiculous for most people.

gamerchick · 23/08/2018 15:21

Yeah tasty murder

StrippingLLamaWhisperer · 23/08/2018 15:21

Everything we eat is murder. That's part and parcel of being a heterotroph I'm afraid.

DerekTheBrave · 23/08/2018 15:22

That much beef is about 1500 calls according to google.

That’s without the rest of the meal calories.

More than your days allowance in one sitting...not a ‘perfectly acceptable amount’ of food for the vast majority of the World.

RedneckStumpy · 23/08/2018 15:23

Killing for meat is all part of eating meat. We only eat what we hunt.

StrippingLLamaWhisperer · 23/08/2018 15:23

it's not more than a daily allowance, you've still got at least 500 to go.

EdisonLightBulb · 23/08/2018 15:25

No different to a 32oz steak

I'm shit at maths, and of an age where we were stuck between imperial and metric, but surely 500g is half a kilo and 500g equals just over 17 oz but 32 oz.

17 Oz is less than a pound in weight. Still a lot admittedly, I am sure 150g is a reasonable portion of protein in one sitting.

Happy to be corrected.

StrippingLLamaWhisperer · 23/08/2018 15:25

not only that, but google (myfitnesspal) tells me 500g mince is 870cals. I didnt think 1500 sounded right.

EdisonLightBulb · 23/08/2018 15:25

but 32 oz
*NOT 32 oz.

ADastardlyThing · 23/08/2018 15:28

If I'm going out for a luxury entitled meal that I don't really need and shouldn't have because it's greedy entitlement while there are people who don't have enough food etc I usually don't eat for the entire day so tbh having loads of calories in one meal as a special occasion type thing doesn't bother me. I eat fairly healthy the rest of the time.

I don't think that cow pie thing would be too bad calorie wise tbh if served with loads of veggies (and not eaten every day!)

Neshoma · 23/08/2018 15:28

If I'm going out for a meal I like a decent portion. You don't know how much anyone eats at home - it could be very little.

Concern yourself with your order and leave other people to enjoy theirs.

SimonBridges · 23/08/2018 15:32

But this was a meal out, not an everyday dinner. You always get much bigger portions when you eat out.

Renarde1975 · 23/08/2018 15:35

Jeez. What an entitled thread. I barely have enough money to feed myself.

The choice between meat based lifestyle and a veg/vegan based one is an ethical choice fundamentally but it could also be financially driven.

You don't like the pie? Don't order the damn pie. If it's not your pie then don't try to control what others' consume. This argument is a logical fallacy in itself. I like some meat but not this much. Please explain because it's nonsensical.

Really; I think this goes down as a #firstworldissue thread.

If you perceive that much meat is a problem ethically OP, I suggest you go vegetarian. I'd love for someone to take me out for a meal.

maxthemartian · 23/08/2018 15:38

Oh good god the competitive undereating and foodphobia strikes again.

MostOfTheTime · 23/08/2018 15:40

16 oz in a pound isn't there? So 500 g = 17.6 oz = a little over a pound, but a lot less than 32 oz!

Fairyliz · 23/08/2018 15:44

I can understand where you are coming from op.

Yes a meal out is a treat and I do always eat more out than I would at home; however there are limits and this seems excessive to me.
Lets be honest people who can actually eat this much don't actually do this as an occasional treat, they must do it on a regular basis to be able to cope with this much food.

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