To do a ouija board on my own?

[LucyDontLockIt]

Got another threat going but wanted to ask a quick question.

I want to a ouija board to determine whether anything is haunting my house. I'm a non spiritual person, non religious, don't really believe in the supernatural but I'm being tested at the minute.

I've been to some of the most supposedly haunted places on Earth (Poveglia anyone?! Look it up) and felt nothing. So I'm not easily convinced but something isn't right. Nobody will talk to me about it and nobody believes me. I'm tempted to just do a ouija board on my own. If nothing happens, I'll tell myself I was imagining everything else.

AIBU to consider doing this??

I'm certain that the clearing up of a mass of boils on my back was not down to the placebo effect. My understanding iqs that the placebo effect is more relevant to conditions with a psychological element.

Not the case at all. The effect of our expectations is so powerful that it can reverse the actual biological action of a drug. There are experiments where women were given a drug that increases nausea and vomiting but told it would reduce it. They vomited less and felt better. The placebo effect can create results significantly more dramatic than removing boils.

This is becoming a derail, but seriously, read up on it. It's fascinating and often misunderstood.

Not one of you who keep going on about power of mind etc. have ever proffered a satisfactory explanation for how objects move about, sometimes travelling considerable distances, e.g. from the very back of a window ledge onto the floor in the middle of the room, in rooms with closed windows and locked doors, and no person or animal touching or being anywhere near them. All I get is, "that didn't happen, you just think it did", which is utter bollocks, as I've observed such happenings numerous times in the clear, sober, light of day. People can say, "I don't believe you", over and over again until they're blue in the face; it won't make a jot of difference. Those like myself who have experienced such phenomena know that it can, and very much does, happen, and others trying frantically to deny it, doesn't make it "unhappen".

Actually Liz I think the discussion I've been having with Queen about homeopathic medicine is helpful to this. I think pp's when referencing the power of the mind are referring to imagination when in fact if what Queen says is correct, with the power of my mind, I actually cured myself of boils. They were not imaginery, they were red, painful and oozed - there were there and then they disappeared which is down to my mind and not the Silicea it seems. I'd say that's quite a phenomenon and it was real.

Chance is nothing will happen. For the thing to move you need a few people and then the phenomenon behind this, called ideomotor movements, might happen. it's when the brain tells you the object you are touching lightly might move, and, without your noticing, your finger tips start twitching and causing small movements which move the object.
Unless you are very twitchy (test the ring on a piece of string, to see if it starts swinging), you alone won't move whatever you have on the board.

I had a friend scared himself shitless with one, I got a phone call as I was the only vaguely religious person in our friendship group.

I was at been asked to do some sort of spell seeing as I'm Catholic and lapsed at that. I borrowed them my bible (didn't have a clue what else to do) and that seemed to be enough to convince him everything had stopped.

The homeopathy/placebo thing is interesting too, when in hospital a different friend was given "sleeping tablets" which worked till the staff admitted they were just vitamin pills.

If you think there's something haunting your house then you need to test its carbon monoxide levels immediately. CM poisoning can alter your perception, and if the 'haunted' feeling is only occurring in one place it's a possibility. Thinking that someone is in your house, or thinking things are being moved around is a well-known symptom.

You just can't get through to some people. It's like ground hog day, repeating yourself over and over...

Have seen various versions of this blindfolded ouija board experiment before:

Basically, the spirits only seem to be able to give coherent answers when the participants are able to see the board. Once the participants are blindfolded, it all becomes gibberish. Why might that be?

Bloody hell has mumsnet gone mad? I didn't realise there were people above the age of 11 who believed in Ouija boards (for good or bad). I thought most 10 year olds had sussed it out?

Not one of you who keep going on about power of mind etc. have ever proffered a satisfactory explanation for how objects move about, sometimes travelling considerable distances, e.g. from the very back of a window ledge onto the floor in the middle of the room, in rooms with closed windows and locked doors, and no person or animal touching or being anywhere near them.
We did have something like this, with a particular pot plant that was deep into a window ledge but twice ended up in the middle of the floor with mess everywhere. Couldn’t really explain it, our best guess was the wind knocking the blinds when doors were opened, then us not noticing for a few days but it didn’t really seem plausible. Around the same time, we once heard the old piano play a few notes, whilst we were both in bed.

Turned out we had mice.

Double glazed window was shut, no draughts, blind was up and well out of the way. No mice.

Said object "moved" from very back of a 20 cm deep windowledge, across a sink projecting 47cm from the wall, then was found a further (from the sink edge) 20cm away, on the floor, where I found it.

The only dangerous board game is a family round of Monopoly at Christmas.

Clearly anyone who believes this has never played Risk...

I suppose mice also dropped those objects down in front of me, out of the air above me, on those other occasions. Clever creatures. Silly me, not to look up, and see it/them. Oh no, hang on, I did, immediately, no wee beasties anywhere. I'm reminded of my earlier "deaf, blind and stupid" comment now.

It's not nice making fun of people for believing in ( or not ) paranormal activities, each to their own really.
Anyway, to the OP, I would most definitely NOT be touching one of those things

What was the object Liz?

@liz70 I witnessed a loaf of bread actually spring out of a kitchen cupboard with force, I was

Bread? Huh?

It must have been those pesky meeces, Loopy.

Very bad idea.

If you feel there's something not right in the house, why go for such a scary and disreputable method of investigating?

There are many religions and philosophies out there, as well as non-belief. Why would you pick the board above every one of those? Most people would go for something like herbs, Feng Shui, prayer - or of course rationalism.

The mainstream CofE can send someone free of charge www.cofe-worcester.org.uk/mission-and-ministry/specialist-chaplaincies/deliverance-ministry/

I haven't RTFT (although it seems to have deviated from the original topic somewhat) but I have to tell you my Ouija board story before you decide what to do. I'll try not to be long winded.

When I was in my teens, I went through a phase of doing loads of ouija boards, by myself and with other people.

After a while, I started only getting one entity every time that referred to themselves as "it". The entity on one occasion spelled out the message "go to hell" I asked why and the entity said "visit me". That was the last time I did a Ouija board and it had freaked me out ever since, so for a good 15+ years now. Whether it was a real entity or psychometric response, it has bothered me ever since. So be aware that it can really get in your head. I find myself wondering if I have landed myself with some awful obligation to fulfil in the afterlife.

Please bear this in mind before you do anything.

It must have been those pesky meeces, Loopy.
Christ, I gave an example of an occasion where an object had twice moved and we couldn’t really explain it, then it turned out to have a fairly pedestrian explanation (in our case, mice). I’m not saying that every time something moves it’s because of mice

I'm not sure that I believe the ouija board works, but I do think that we don't fully understand the power of our minds. Whether within the confines of our inner self or beyond our physical bodies, as in our metal ability to heal ourselves or being able to move something across the room. I'm a non-religious, science-type person, but I do think there is a lot out there we don't understand yet. I'd get a camera to see what's going on and possibly have a chat with someone professional about how I'm feeling generally.

Incidentally, have we heard back from the OP or did I miss an update somewhere?

I lived in a haunted house...everyone knew it. Was fine.

Presumably this thread will form the basis of a tabloid "article"

Yes, I've noticed the op doesn't really come back to threads she's started, I've just read the original one, and she's not been back