To do a ouija board on my own?

[LucyDontLockIt]

Got another threat going but wanted to ask a quick question.

I want to a ouija board to determine whether anything is haunting my house. I'm a non spiritual person, non religious, don't really believe in the supernatural but I'm being tested at the minute.

I've been to some of the most supposedly haunted places on Earth (Poveglia anyone?! Look it up) and felt nothing. So I'm not easily convinced but something isn't right. Nobody will talk to me about it and nobody believes me. I'm tempted to just do a ouija board on my own. If nothing happens, I'll tell myself I was imagining everything else.

AIBU to consider doing this??

There is zero actual evidence that God, or any supernatural being exists. All we have is hearsay, rumour, speculation, myth.

I would be so fecked off if a dead relative sent me feathers. I dislike birds in general. Why can't it be a fancy bouquet or chocolates?

Damn right! And I don't want to think that my dead relatives are watching me watching Judge Rinder and gently farting of an afternoon.

And of course a fence blowing down isn't demonic. It's just bad luck.

So how do you know if the devil is behind something that's happened to you or someone else and it isn't bad luck?

So we'd expect to see Christians having a hard time getting poked about by Satan. And those who don't believe in a god getting an easy time of it because Nick isn't interested in us.? How come the same heartaches and misfortunes befall all of us? Seems like an awful waste of his time and machinations if there's no discernible difference between the two groups?

My friend did a ouija board at my ex bf's he walked out of the flat and got run over a few days later another lad that did it that night also got run over he wasn't as lucky and had to learn to walk again .... don't do it

There are many things that are beyond human understanding, and just because you can't see something doesn't mean that it isn't there. It is just hubris to think otherwise.

And I would definitely steer clear of ouija boards. Just asking for trouble.

To the lady who the phone psychic knew stuff about your mum. I knew someone who worked on the tarot card reading phone lines. Your number would come up and you would log any information. Next time they rang back you would drop in something from the system as the computer would recognise the number or name

@MJandKB

Wow! That's a huge coincidence!

Agreed, there are many things beyond human comprehension. But fortunately basic physics aren't one of them.

Just because you can't see something doesn't mean that it isn't there

So, for example, I could tell you there's an invisible gorilla on your sofa. Do you agree that just because you can't see it, it's not there?

I'm just trying to work out at what point you wouldn't stand by your above stance on things you can't see.

@Lemonysnicketts

"I speak from first hand knowledge (daughter of a priest) who has had to rush to people’s houses in the late evening to exorcise them after they thought it would be fun to do one"

What denomination was your father a priest of?

Before you answer, bear in mind that the Anglican and Catholic Churches only permit exorcism to be carried out by a trained person when authorised by a Bishop after an investigation into the claims have been carried out...

Yes, that was my understanding Grumbles. Only very specific (and very few) priests are allowed to conduct exorcisms. There are official procedures and policies in place which have to be followed.

It's just nonsense to state that any priest can nip out halfway through dinner to perform a speedy exorcism and be back in time for dessert

t's just nonsense to state that any priest can nip out halfway through dinner to perform a speedy exorcism and be back in time for dessert

I'd happily nip out halfway dinner to reassure some frightened family, and tell them not to worry as it's not real.

That's because you're a nice sensible person headinhands

I would be so fecked off if a dead relative sent me feathers. I dislike birds in general. Why can't it be a fancy bouquet or chocolates?

Same here, they make me sneeze. And butterflies - I'm scared of the fuckers! Diamonds - that would be nice though. And a ghost that can move the hoover up and down the stairs.

PenelopeShitStop - there is also zero evidence that God etc DOESN'T exist. So if you're going down that line the only sensible position is agnostic
That can be agnostic that God likely doesn't exist; or agnostic that s/he/ it likely does.

By your logic, dido, I presume you are agnostic about Zeus, Neptune, Thor, Shiva, Osiris, Mama Pacha etc.?

We don't have to give credence to any old beliefs, just because some people believed it at one time or another; or even if they still do.

True HPLikecraft, but there are degrees of likelihood. It is, I think, less sensible to believe in Fairies at the Bottom of the Garden than to believe in a Creative Force behind all the exists? And the belief in that Prime Mover is behind many of the names of gods you mention

Just as the scientific ideas of centuries ago are altered and changed, so are the religious ideas.

I agree with that, dido, good post but not in the logic of your earlier post, i.e. that if proof is the deciding factor for your (lack of) religious belief, then should be consistent take the agnostic position because there's no proof of god's non existence.
Well how can there be? There is no way of disproving god isn't there. The onus is on the believers to prove the existence of something for which there is no evidence at all; not the disbelievers who haven't seen the light. To quote the late great Christopher Hitchens
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

Belief in a prime mover/creative force is not entirely unreasonable, so I do understand why some may be deists. But I remain a full 9.5 on the Richard Dawkins atheism scale!

HPLikecraft - I do see what your post is saying, and I dither between agnosticism/unbelief and Christianity.

Your Hitchins quotation doesn't work for me. As we archaeologists say, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".

I do, though , envy those (intelligent) people whose faith is firm.

“the late great Christopher Hitchens“

Now who’s the one who believes in shite?
Odious human being

I really don’t like Dawkin’s atheism/theism scale.

For me, atheism is either denying something’s existence outright or simply lacking a belief in it. Agnosticism is a separate belief that the question of something’s existence is unknowable.

my hands. i have a ouija board tattooed on my hands. nothing supernatural has occurred, thus far.

i am pleased to know that i can ring the vicar and ask for the Deliverance Minister to bob round in case of any demonic possession. thanks, mumsnet!

@exWifebeginsat40

Any chance of a picture, please? 😊 I'm trying to visualise how this could be, sounds really interesting

My neighbour told me her mother did a ouija board and got a message that she would die. 73 years later, she DID. How do you explain THAT, eh?!?