To think some posters are naive about SS?

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I see many posts where people seem to believe either that SS will offer support and that parents who are loving and coping but struggling can contact them for a hand-hold, or posts where people believe a not ideal yet normal situation can and should be reported.

AIBU to think posters are naive about what SS actually do?

midges you've admitted that you copy and paste? In the very serious matter of whether a child will be removed? Don't you think children in that position deserve their own individual reports?

This is a really valid point. And I’m shocked it’s common practice as I’m sure it could lead to serious mistakes.

Are these not legal documents??

ante As I have tried to explain not funding a system properly has impacts. If the choice is making sure every child in your caseload is seen or writing each report from scratch it is safer to see each child. Reports could never be copied wholesale but there will be structures and phrases that are portable. Yes every child deserves individual attention but I have tried to explain in the thread what can get in the way of this.
I wouldn't write unsubstantiated opinions though and I would expect any social worker who did so to get pulled up pretty quickly when on the stand by the parents barrister.

You haven't answered the question?

optimusprimesmother

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Aunti I wouldn’t bother replying to those too as they are both getting off on you trying to explain your situation. Don’t feed them

optimus, it's ok, I'm used to it. I'm in a group of people helping other parents going through the same thing

Also to point out that you write multiple reports for each dc over the time you work with them, so a fair amount of repetition will happen.

auntethel

I'm asking in good faith.

People get fucked over by professionals all the time but you rarely get somebody calling in the question all doctors motives just because one Doctor has caused them significant injury. Thought, I suppose, with child protection you have an element of accusation there too....

I am wondering do you think there is a problem with the system or the people that populate it?

midges that’s not right though and I’m sure when you were trained that certainly wasn’t in your training.

I have to write out financial reports which also has a lot of repition but if I C&P and messed up I’d be toast. These are children’s lives and every report should be written out up to date and current. Where is the due diligence in C&P?

Aunt I’m gobsmacked too that a serious report will be a copy and paste job rather than individually written and tailored to the child and family. I must say I have read documents pertaining to social services and in particular CP and noted the similarity in several different cases. It was a long time ago but considering the consequences for the families concerned it is unprofessional and lazy.

It is no wonder to me why people are not keen to report anything to Social Services. It is clear that they manipulate situations to suit their agenda. The criticise parents and are not aware how they do all the same wrong things.

Well, we've seen it all today folks. COPY AND PASTE to remove children from their families, some of them lie, damage children and perjure themselves because of MONEY. And they can't cope with confrontation without resorting to name calling.

Yes but there are going to be be structures and phrases that fit so can be transferred. Somebody made a comment about always seeing something about packing boxes on reports, I was thinking that it may have been something that got carried through that workers reports, it isn't inaccurate if there were packing boxes in the corner. It would be a problem if there were no packing boxes. Sadly repetition in social work reports comes from lack of change not from them not being up to date. They also have a bad habit of rehashing everything that has happened to date because they are expected to function as standalone documents. As I have tried to explain it will be small phrases like 'packing boxes in corner' that get repeated not whole paragraphs. Our qc was that a manager would our reports then our lawyer would. The structure of reports were pretty set with little flexibility so would also be repeated.

Tess now I know you’re an absolute bellend. Not gone through too posts though have you? Why’s that then ?

I'm asking in good faith
Who’s lying now??

No, don't bother replying, its easier that way isn't it?. Just accusations and venom and such, don't bother actually giving any info or trying to understand anything. Why bother?

It is very easy to blame individuals working in very difficult situations but if you actually want to create meaningful change you have to be more insightful about some of the structural issues.

Only the big stories of failures hit the headlines. When i worked in care work our dealings with social services were pretty awful. The reports would be so incorrect saying "X has good family support" when they never saw the family ever. The one time i was really angry and put in a complaint was how they dealt with dementia patients. They kept telling us we had to tell residents their relatives had died. We always knew when SS was in as you would hear anguished cries theoughout the home. When we would question why they had told an 86 year old who had reverted to child phase that their parents were dead they would inform us that the resident was an adult and would be treated as such... I told them to fuck off if they thought they knew better than dementia specialists and those who specialised in dementia care. I was told off for questioning this.

It is very easy to blame individuals working in very difficult situations but if you actually want to create meaningful change you have to be more insightful about some of the structural issues

This is what confuses me about some of the attitudes. I absolutely understand why you would be fucking furious if your kids were harmed by social services. I don't understand why you would want to write it off as arbitrary maliciousness, if anything it's letting people off too easily.

Toomany, no idea why some sw's behave the way they do. All I can say is, I've never seen them round a cauldron. HTH.

MarthaArthur

What like, repeatedly telling them each time they forgot? Or just telling them when it happened?

no idea why some sw's behave the way they do. All I can say is, I've never seen them round a cauldron. HTH

But logically, which do you think is more likely, that children didn't see each for real operational or budgetary contraints, or for shitz and giggles of SW?

I genuinely want to know. Your posts create the impression that you hate all SW and you think they purposefully harm children for no good reason at all. Is that accurate?

Wow too you really do have an axe to grind with other peoples experience don’t you? What vested interest have you got??

You don’t actually work in SS do you?

Why are you being nasty to Auntie about not immidiatly replying to you when your not replying to me??

I repeat - what’s your vested interest as your starting to look very biased..

No, no axe. Simply asking a question. Do you know how internet forums work?

Immediately * - just for you tess*

Why are you being nasty to Auntie about not immidiatly replying to you when your not replying to me??

i think you are confused, the post I think you think is nasty was aimed at you, not ethel. HTH