To think some posters are naive about SS?

[fudgeraisinbiscuit]

I see many posts where people seem to believe either that SS will offer support and that parents who are loving and coping but struggling can contact them for a hand-hold, or posts where people believe a not ideal yet normal situation can and should be reported.

AIBU to think posters are naive about what SS actually do?

Other words - fingers in ears singing ‘la la la la la’

No, a valid and correct point, but if that is your way of talking to and listening to other people, it may explain a lot about your experiences.

too many, it's totally relevant. She was asking advice and as a professional he should have been able to at least, ensure the children are protected. Unless of course, that's too difficult for sw's?

optimusprimesmother

Do you think you can demand medical advice from your doctor friends?

Sorry if that doesn’t fit your ideas of wonderful SW

You come across as bitter and ridiculous when you say stuff like this. I have repeatedly said that there are, of course, bad social workers. I have actually pointed out real examples (as opposed to imaginary ones) of horrific practice. The difference is I can tell the difference, you sound like a nutter.

it may explain a lot about your experiences

Indeed, and it's really sad. The likes of that bizarre AIMS letter and Sabine McNeill and etc do nothing to support genuine criticisms of social work practice.

All of this takes money and the opposite increases the risk of poor practices. Damn that lack of money, causing professionals to lie, make false reports, frighten and emotionally harm children and perjure themselves in court. Again, if money stopped lies, we would have paid.

She was asking advice and as a professional he should have been able to at least, ensure the children are protected. Unless of course, that's too difficult for sw's?

He wasn't acting as a professional (if indeed he even exists)and had no scope to "ensure the children were protected. How do you think that would even happen? He should have pulled out his SW cape and swooped in and removed them? And then he'd just be another evil baby snatcher....

You are being ridiculous. One anecdote about advice from a SW who is not acting in any professional capacity does not say anything about SW as a profession, ffs. If you asked a nurse friend in the pub about your sore arm and they said it looks alright to me, would you shriek about how all nurses are obviously terrible bitches if it turned out to be a fracture?

Do you think you can demand medical advice from your doctor friends?

No idea what you mean from that tess and you sound like an utter bell end as I’ve seen your sneering posts all over MN today.

Also tess and too what experiences of SW have I had? Please share as I fear you may more know than me!

My good friend was a SW who gave it up due to short staffed and bad practices - but I feel your insinuating something more? Like they’ve been involved with my kids ??? Is that what you think because I disagree with you? Is that how you think you win arguments by insinuating passive aggressive bullshit?

What really sick is if I had had a bad experience with them and you just came on here and blamed me for it. Have you heard what gas lighting is?

Wow. So not going to engage with that!

@optimusprimesmother

Can't speak for me too but my point is that you have no credibility due to the ill educated and hysterical stuff you spout, therefore it's quite likely you are lying or misunderstanding.

I have heard of gas lighting, it doesn't mean what you think it does. Shocker.

Refer to my first post on this thread at 11.19.

Thats my experience with SW. I’ve chatted many a time over a coffee her her about shite practices.

So yeah please tell me about any other experiences you think I’ve had

Wow. So not going to engage with that

Because you can’t

Lying about what tess?

And yeah - I think your really good at gaslighting. Have you looked it up yourself?

Lying about what tess?

Anything you say. It was very much a generalisation based on what little I have seen of your posts.

If you have anything of substance to say about the topic I will respond. Otherwise go an pick a fight down the local shop if you're that desperate.

tess you need to take your own advice love !

Why the fuck would I lie? That cracked me up

Could. Not touching that mess with a bargepole though. Maybe time to calm down and have a cup of tea?

Oh you not insinuating I’ve been involved with SS services now because I had a difference of opinion? too

How old are you by the way? As usually people stop prefacing sentences with ‘So’ in secondary ..

SO not in to this insinuating lark...

I know ss, or to be more precise individual sws fuck up. Both ways, leaving kids for far too long or pushing for removal when there is no need. Not from a personal and therefore biased perspective, but from a professional capacity with all the evidence. But people forget that mostly the public only hear the bad.

In my neighbourhood anyone will tell you about the time they fucked up taking x on an emergency order, only to return her and close the case soon after. Or y who really should have been removed at birth, and now is sadly at an age when remaining with the parent is the least damaging long term. However they easily forget all the times sw did act correctly in the interests of dc, and probably don't even know about all the families where ss intervention kept the family together through support.

And on a personal note this is hardly the ideal forum to be discussing removing dc because of risk of emotional harm. I've read any number of threads over the years with posters falling over themselves to deny/ excuse emotional abuse. Or advising an op with concerns that ss won't be interested because they have real abuse to deal with. The stately homes thread could be posted from the parents perspective and I bet there would be numerous posters dripping sympathy for the poor parents trying their best.

I'm certainly not accusing anyone on this thread of having that attitude. And neither do I mean I don't believe anyone sharing their experience of being falsely accused of it.

But on a collective basis mn has a very warped idea of what constitutes neglect/ abuse or the risk of it when it involves the emotional well being of children. So hardly the ideal platform to be trying to convince people that risk of emotional harm is the area ss fuck up or lie about more than others. If anything, emotional abuse is the area ss are most likely to miss, because people don't bother reporting it, and it's also the area that it's hardest for them to disprove/ prove.

There's been some brilliant excuses on here for sw's harming children.My vote goes to lack of money making them do it. wasn't my fault I damaged children guv, it was the money's fault.

There's been some brilliant excuses on here for sw's harming children.My vote goes to lack of money making them do it. wasn't my fault I damaged children guv, it was the money's fault

It's clear you didn't understand the points made, but perhaps you could ask rather than this foolish posturing to hide your own ignorance?

Please look up Senator Nancy Schaefer report. The corrupt business of child protective services. Happening in the US too.

Anyone else fed up with “lack of money” as an excuse for everything!

Why so aggressive all the time too? You must be frothing at the mouth with all this ‘ignorance’ (difference of opinion)

Maybe you need to relax and have a cup of tea.

Yes user it’s a sorry state of affairs. The government have a lot to answer for.

No, not ignorance but keep on with the put downs. Water off a ducks back.