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To wonder how the fluffing hell you can 'fall off' a cruise ship?!

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katiefromtheblock · 20/08/2018 14:49

I mean HOW? Just HOW?

I am an average height (5 ft 4ish) and the rail was up to my chest when me and DH went on a cruise ship 3 years ago. It was like this on the attached pic.

To wonder how the fluffing hell you can 'fall off' a cruise ship?!
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AllAtHome · 20/08/2018 17:39

I don’t understand how she apparently just climbed out herself - she ought to have been exhausted.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2018 17:41

Ex Virgin crew here

You need to do an AMA, Freshstart ... I don't think we've had airline crew yet? Wink

FASH84 · 20/08/2018 17:41

I've read reports that CCTV shows she climbed the rails and jumped after a row with her partner

Mrbatmun · 20/08/2018 17:42

Staff are trained in how to react in certain circumstances. It's aim is that if staff continue as normal then guests will take their lead and remain calm(er!)

Yes that's true I guess. Its like when you are on a plane and you watch the cabin crew carefully during turbulence to see their reaction - if they start to look worried, then it's time to worry!

Mummyschnauzer · 20/08/2018 17:48

Apparently around 25 people a year disembark in the middle of the sea from cruise ship. We were in oasis of the seas whenone man left the ship en route to Cozumel. Bizarrely he was rescued by a passing Disney cruise ship! There was cctv footage of him clambering over the life boats and taking a jump. As the captain said,no one just falls off a cruise ship. News on the cruise world is she stripped most of her clothes off down to underwear After spending yet another day arguing with oh and she jumped off. She’s obviously trying to make a name for herself loving the limelight! Hope she gets a heavy fine if cctv (apparently this was caught on cctv) proves she did this on purpose - no doubt she’ll be after a two page spread in the sun wearing said underwear, a slot with Phil and holly and loose women. Bet if anyone looks she’ll have auditioned for every reality tv thing going

Stopyourhavering64 · 20/08/2018 17:49

I went on a cruise in 1977 with my parents ( df retirement trip)...we were cruising round the Mediterranean and our last port of call was to be Gibraltar....never made it as 1 poor soul ( who we later found out had been on our minibus down from Scotland, and was a retired GP) had 'fallen' overboard. Despite retracing the course ship had sailed, we never found her Shock

Guienne · 20/08/2018 17:50

It's very odd. I was told by a professional sailor that cruise ships (at least the very big ones) won't stop if the realise someone has fallen over the rail. They assume that the person will have been killed by the fall.

This one undoubtedly went back for her - as a lot of grumpy passengers who missed their connections as a result can testify.

Yellowbird54321 · 20/08/2018 17:51

"disembark in the middle of the sea from cruise ship

you make it sound so casual Mummy Grin

boredmaman · 20/08/2018 17:55

Well, really if you think about it logically why shoudl the waiter give a shit that someone who he didn't know might be drowning? Why were you beside yourself?. You didn't know them or their family or friends

jesus, thats cold! You wouldn't give a shit if someone died right by you if you weren't family or friend?

Laiste · 20/08/2018 17:57

I'm idly wondering what the stopping distance is on one of those things. About 8 miles ... ?! HmmGrin

Laiste · 20/08/2018 17:59

We were in oasis of the seas when one man left the ship en route to Cozumel. Bizarrely he was rescued by a passing Disney cruise ship!

P'raps he thought the entertainment was a bit mickey mouse Grin

cheesemongery · 20/08/2018 17:59

We were in oasis of the seas whenone man left the ship en route to Cozumel. Bizarrely he was rescued by a passing Disney cruise ship!

I don't know why that just made me laugh so much! I definitely would have jumped off that one!

SirGawain · 20/08/2018 17:59

She’s obviously trying to make a name for herself loving the limelight!
Rather a risky way to make a name for yourself. She was lucky, statistically her chances of survival were close to zero!

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 20/08/2018 18:00

Let's not forget her made up ordeal was at night, so she would have fallen, drunk, from a great height, hit the water, but managed to float and survive 10 hours (because of yoga and singing) in the darkHmm

youarenotkiddingme · 20/08/2018 18:08

And then thought to tie her t shirt up to look fashionable and brush her hair for the awaiting media Grin

TSSDNCOP · 20/08/2018 18:11

I’m still struggling with the yoga angle. Are there yoga people here that can explain? I’m thinking that following her 70ft swallow dive she didn’t slip into Down Dog as a means of survival.

ALongHardWinter · 20/08/2018 18:12

My first thought on hearing this was 'How the actual fuck do you just "fall" off a cruise ship?!'

ratchethandler · 20/08/2018 18:13

Thrown off, drunk, sitting on hand rail taking selfies?

Important thing is she's been rescued and is well.

ThomasRichard · 20/08/2018 18:17

Here are some ifs:

  • If she fell off at just gone midnight and they didn’t notice until 6.30-ish, that would suggest she was alone and so wasn’t pushed.
  • If she was drunk then she would probably be quite floppy so falling in would have been less traumatic than if she’d tensed up.
  • If she’s cabin crew she would have had good emergency training and so not panicked and known what to do in the water.
  • If she was drunk then lying on her back in a warm, calm sea looking up at the stars and singing sea shanties might have felt pretty good!
Cocolepew · 20/08/2018 18:19

Jenasaurus that's hilarious about your mum and the armbands, I love it 😂
I know there is cctv footage of her jumping off but I'm still struggling to believe it BlushConfused

VelvetSpoon · 20/08/2018 18:21

You can tread water for a long time. My grandfather was in the Navy and his ship was sunk during the war. He was 18 and couldn't swim. He managed to tread water and keep afloat with no buoyancy aid for something like 16 hours before he was rescued. Survival instinct etc.

However that's quite a bit different to falling off a cruise ship. I don't understand how she wasn't sucked into the propellers. The jumping/ falling is one aspect but for me that's the real puzzle.

DarlingNikita · 20/08/2018 18:22

TSSDNCOP, well, as she said, she may well be quite fit overall from doing a lot of yoga.

It also promotes an attitude of acceptance and non-attachment, so instead of panicking and flailing, gasping in breaths and gulping water etc, she may have been more able to breathe steadily and stay calm.

boredmaman · 20/08/2018 18:24

The people who think she made it all up....how exactly? She was on the ship, we know that. She was picked up in the water, we know that, and when.
What is it you think she did exactly if it isn't that she fell/jumped off the ship and was in the water for almost ten hours? I'm confused as to what you think she did in the meantime?

boredmaman · 20/08/2018 18:25

I don't understand how she wasn't sucked into the propellers. The jumping/ falling is one aspect but for me that's the real puzzle
not much of a puzzle, since it was already answered on this thread!

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 20/08/2018 18:27

She can't have been taking selfies in the middle if the night.

It's dark!

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