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To wonder how the fluffing hell you can 'fall off' a cruise ship?!

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katiefromtheblock · 20/08/2018 14:49

I mean HOW? Just HOW?

I am an average height (5 ft 4ish) and the rail was up to my chest when me and DH went on a cruise ship 3 years ago. It was like this on the attached pic.

To wonder how the fluffing hell you can 'fall off' a cruise ship?!
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katiefromtheblock · 20/08/2018 16:34

@HeManOrSheRa

She looks remarkably well for someone who's been floating in salt water for 10 hours 🤔. Never mind falling 20 m off the back off a cruise liner and hitting the water!

I know right. Wink

I slipped on the canal bank last year (twas muddy!) and fell in the canal. I looked like a drowned duck that had been attacked by a lawnmower and then shaken for half an hour. I was quite stunned and shaken, and I hurt my ribs and left hip as I fell.

That was a fall of 2-3 feet into 4 feet of water, and I was in the water for less than 2 minutes. So how this woman managed to survive such a fall, spend TEN HOURS in the sea, and then be so chuffing breezy about it, (as well as seemingly rather unscathed!) just baffles me! Confused

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serbska · 20/08/2018 16:37

I didn't mean I expected the whole crew to go out on deck panicking and helping with a rescue. Its just that the waiter didn't seem all that bothered that someone from the ship was potentially drowning in the sea! I was beside myself!

Well, really if you think about it logically why shoudl the waiter give a shit that someone who he didn't know might be drowning? Why were you beside yourself?. You didn't know them or their family or friends.

Do you get into a state about the approx 1770 people killed on UK roads last year? That is actual, gruesome, bloody and painful deaths happening all around you in the UK. every day. Or drug addicts in the USA overdosing on fentanyl?

TSSDNCOP · 20/08/2018 16:45

Give over Serbska. I think it's fair that people would be reasonably ruffled if a fellow holidaymaker dropped off the boat. A shrug to the news that someone nearby is in peril is a fairly low key response.

LittleRen · 20/08/2018 16:48

I know it’s The Sun so it’s questionable but the article on there pretty much says she jumped after an argument with her partner and cctv confirms she was on her own. She undressed before jumping.

Stillwishihadabs · 20/08/2018 16:48

This thread is Fascinating- I had no idea. Never fancied a cruise much, even less so nowGrin

katiefromtheblock · 20/08/2018 16:54

Have to agree with @TSSDNCOP that most people - including the crew - would be shocked, and a bit worried if they heard someone had gone overboard.

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Mrbatmun · 20/08/2018 16:55

Well, really if you think about it logically why shoudl the waiter give a shit that someone who he didn't know might be drowning? Why were you beside yourself?. You didn't know them or their family or friends.

Huh? So if you don't know someone, you can't be upset that they might be in mortal peril in the very close vicinity? How odd....

Mrbatmun · 20/08/2018 16:57

Thanks @TSSDNCOP glad to know its not just me!

ZanyMobster · 20/08/2018 16:58

You can't just fall off, you would have to be leaning right over if you were really tall or had climbed up. Stupid story and it annoys me as makes people paranoid.

We were on-board a ship when someone jumped over. They rescued him in the Atlantic. He was fine as apparently he'd had a lot to drink so it slows down reactions which helps.

Mrbatmun · 20/08/2018 16:59

A shrug to the news that someone nearby is in peril is a fairly low key response.

Which is what made me think that false alarm 'man overboard's mustn't be a total rarity.

Oblomov18 · 20/08/2018 16:59

I just smell a rat. Nothing about this adds up or makes sense.

cheesemongery · 20/08/2018 17:02

If she was drunk, she probably wasn't flailing around and wasting her energy trying to swim. In relatively calm/warm waters, you could just float for hours. She probably wouldn't have survived if she was sober and tried to swim/tread water for that long. Sometimes, being "out of it" is an advantage. Anything buoyant will float forever in calm waters.

Grin are you reading this Dad? No of course you aren't because you drowned shitfaced.

What a load of bollocks.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2018 17:05

Also worth remembering that most NCL (Norwegian) cruises are sold on a "drinks included" basis, as opposed to those where you have to buy a very expensive drinks package, or just pay as you go

All of which can easily lead to massive over-indulgence ...

ZanyMobster · 20/08/2018 17:09

It really isn't that common to get a 'man overboard'. It's even rarer to save one.

Our have been going on cruises for 15 years, mostly twice a year. It's happened once and it was deliberate. I don't believe it has ever happen with someone just walking round the ship or just stood there leaning on the rail looking out to sea.

I have on several occasions seen toddlers literally hanging over their balconies, it terrifies me, can't believe they are not being watched. We never had balcony cabins till the kids were older.

SassitudeandSparkle · 20/08/2018 17:11

I've been away this weekend and only seen the headlines on this case but I immediately thought it was bull. She jumped. She didn't fall.

AlphaBravo · 20/08/2018 17:13

According to other guests she was drunk all day and arguing with friends and passengers, then decided to throw herself off. She's a fucking idiot.

ZanyMobster · 20/08/2018 17:15

I do feel sorry for the crew in these situations, the rescue crew put their lives at risk to rescue these people. When it happened on our cruise one of the rescue rafts engine failed and was being pulled under the propellers. It had to be rescued by another rescue team. They do man overboard drills in port regularly, a crew member lost their life not that long ago in training.

It is very traumatic for the crew involved, maybe not to a waiter so much but we saw first hand how much it affected them. The rescue crew were upset, but also very unwell due to the conditions on a little boat in the Atlantic. The medics had the person on 24 hr observations after he was rescued until they reached the next port 2 days later where him and his family were removed.

NicoAndTheNiners · 20/08/2018 17:17

Agree the most amazing thing is that she survived. I’m not sure I could float for ten hours. I might give it a go in the gym at the weekend and have a floatathon and see how long I manage. Grin

PassTheAfterEights · 20/08/2018 17:21

@butchyrestingface DYING 😂

HollyGibney · 20/08/2018 17:27

Hoozz? What book is that please? Big fan of cruises and related fiction Smile

youarenotkiddingme · 20/08/2018 17:28

With regards waiter not reacting - I can answer that!
Staff are trained in how to react in certain circumstances. It's aim is that if staff continue as normal then guests will take their lead and remain calm(er!)

This whole story had me Confused this morning. I was washing up after breakfast and tv new came on. I heard reports someone had survived after 10 hours in water having fallen from Norwegian Star. Then I heard there was a brief interview. When I heard woman talking I assumed it was someone from company - as her accent didn't Sound British! Yet they kept mentioning British woman in every sentence!

Irrelevant I know but it was odd!

And did anyone notice they tried to cut her off during the interview? And she was desperate to give her details out as to who she was.

Interesting about her being a problem passenger. Maybe this is the new way of making a compensation claim over your holiday Grin

MipMipMip · 20/08/2018 17:29

Apparently the railings are 4 foot.

I think being drunk probably helped. You are far more likely to survive as crash if you're drunk than sober because of the way your body relaxes. Add in the fact that she will have done water training with her job which will likely kick in on autopilot and it makes a bit mire sense. Apart from how she fell in of course.

Just for TSSDNCOP. Grin

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Katjolo · 20/08/2018 17:29

Very strange story. Must involve alcohol

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2018 17:38

The medics had the person on 24 hr observations after he was rescued until they reached the next port 2 days later where him and his family were removed

In the case of passengers, you sometimes have to wonder if this is for medical reasons or because they don't want any more hassle Hmm

It's hard not to notice, if you're up when a ship pulls into port, those who are being escorted off the ship with their luggage ...

Freshstart40 · 20/08/2018 17:38

To one of the posters who asked about her cabin crew training. Ex Virgin crew here. We just got one day training in the pool on how to haul yourself into the life raft, and others, also how to detach the raft from the aircraft door. Plus where a few bits of equipment you may need are stored. Nothing on surviving without any of that. Being ex crew though she will have a calm personality, even if she is feeling under pressure.