To not understand people who can’t hold their drink

[Kartrashian]

And yet still go out and get shitfaced every single time?

We’ve all been there and had nights out where we got far too drunk and embarrassed ourselves but I’m talking about the people that do this constantly.

Why would you constantly want to embarrass yourself, ruin people’s nights and expect to be looked after?

Because not everyone who can’t handle drink embarrasses themselves. Some people just get super pissed and you know... go home.

Stop bragging

It sounds as though you have someone in mind. Alcoholism is a tragic thing.

I would assume that at least some people who are guilty of such behaviour are somewhere on the downward spiral of a drink problem.

We’ve all been there and had nights out where we got far too drunk and embarrassed ourselves

Speak for yourself

I do make a tit of myself fairly frequently: it doesn't involve drink though.

I don't get it either OP. I've known a few people who go out with the aim of 'getting pissed' and I don't understand. I can only assume that it feels different for some people.

If I have too much to drink I am extremely nauseous and dizzy and it takes me a full day to recover. It is not something i ever do on purpose and i'm much better now at knowing my limit and not being pressured into having any more. I cannot get my head round people choosing to do that to themselves.

My MIL actually changed her work hours so she could get drunk at least every other night 😳. DH cannot rememberxa yime thag dhr didn’t drink. Sad.

rememberxa yime thag dhr didn’t drink.

???

I haven’t touched a drop, honest!

of all the times for that to happen...!

The MN alcohol police are on the beat I see. And not one reference to a pregnant woman having half a cider ONCE during the whole pregnancy either.

That's a result.

There must be a name for what you're doing OP - something like "straw man" argument but not quite.

OP: people who get drunk all the time are inexplicable and bad
Next poster : Well, some people have an alcohol problem.
OP: I'm not talkng about those people. I mean people who don't have an alcohol problem, but just get really drunk and embarrassing.
Reply: Do you have someone in mind?
OP: Nope, just those people who get shit faced and don't learn from it. Why??
Reply : Maybe they will learn from it?
OP: But I'm thinking about the ones who won't. Why are they like that??

.... etc, etc.

Its like the OP has constructed a hate figure in their mind, to which all the usual explanations don't apply. It doesn't matter what other posters say, the OP just decides that there are at least "some people" who are just bad and terrible like that, and they should be allowed to work themselves into a froth of indignation about it.

Seriously, does anyone know what that rhetorical device is called? It's not quite straw man, and it's not quite "no true Scotsman".

Depends what you mean by ‘can’t hold their drink’

Tbh I do remember be during my late teens that we would generally go out with the definite aim of getting stupidly drunk. I also remember that I never felt particularly embarrassed about the previous nights antics the next day, making a tit of yourself and doing/saying embarrassing things was just part of it and funny to talk about the next day. But then as I got older I grew out of that. I’m late 20s now and barely drink because I really fear overstepping the mark and having too much and doing something stupid, to the point where the anxiety just makes it pointless trying to enjoy a glass of wine or whatever.

Do you have someone specific in mind OP? You may get a more helpful response if you explain what is going on.

If you are saying you are having to spend time with someone who frequently get's so drunk that they are passing out/vomiting/putting themselves or others in danger, then you are probably describing an alcoholic. It's a very serious illness.

If you don't understand it there is lots of information available online, plus support for close families of addicts.

Some people drink to forget problems or trauma in their lives. I know two people like this and I find it so sad.

I don’t get it either. I think it’s childish!

The only two times I have ever gotten stupidly drunk were when I was extremely upset and trying to “act normal” and ended up making an arse of myself.

I think people who do this don't have high insight. They don't realise just how stupid, annoying and inconvenient they are to others.

When we're young drinking is a sport. Who can get the most wasted, it's a competition. Then suddenly it changes and some people don't get the memo.

PrincessScarlett yes I think that’s my PILs, certainly my MIL, I think FIL has a physical dependency now but may have started off drinking to make life better.

It’s a shame they don’t look at the problems and sort them out though! But that would mean looking at themselves and being critical (MIL tells lies and gossips so has no friendsand very few relatives to socialise with for instance, FIL has a temper problem) and they won’t do that.

Why would you constantly want to embarrass yourself, ruin people’s nights and expect to be looked after?

Well clearly you wouldn't.

Lots of information available here OP www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol-facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/mental-health/alcoholism/

If this is someone you care about then there may not be much you can do to help them, but you still might find it useful to read up.

If it someone who is just part of a social circle then just avoid them if it bothers you, and be glad you are able to have a "normal" relationship with alcohol.

I don't get it either. And I especially don't get the people who have children that do this regularly ... do they think their children aren't clocking their behaviour? I have had primary school children tell me very matter of factly about how their parents get drunk regularly. And one even told me very matter of factly that the Christmas holidays were spent with her mum in hospital having her stomach pumped again after drinking too much. Again.

I hate those parents. They have no idea what they're doing to their kids.

A friend of my Exes, every time he drank he'd get all moody and start trouble. I never understood why Ex would go drinking with him, but he used to say he's such a great friend.

I kind of realised I was a bit of a twat when drunk, so now I don't drink. Don't miss it at all. Still cringe thinking back about it though.

Pearl clutching and judgments abound here.

Forget about thinking that younger folk will listen to you, that won't happen. More mature folk might listen. But an occasional blow out is not a crime either.

Anally retentive society bores me to death. Sorry about that.

We will not solve it, nor should we interfere with others lives, unless they impact considerably on us personally.

By a bit of a twat, I just mean I'm socially awkward, so I say weird things and annoy people. I do it sober too, but I'm way worse when I drink.

SendintheArdwolves are you alright hun?

Example of one person (have posted about individual before) I’m referring to -

Knows they make an absolute twat of themselves at work events, upset people etc .. says every time I’m not going to drink this time. Yet still orders double vodkas during dinner.

I just don’t get it. They aren’t an alcoholic either.

I’m not talking about alcoholics! Ffs.