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Well we all knew this about people who correct grammer on line

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Metoodear · 19/08/2018 08:35

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/news/amp42354/people-who-point-out-typos-are-idiots-so-says-science/

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applesauce1 · 19/08/2018 08:51

@BIWI you're totally right! @Singlenotsingle my humblest apologies. Forgive me?

BIWI · 19/08/2018 08:51
Grin
Mentounasc · 19/08/2018 08:52

The study in question has nothing to do with 'correcting' SPAG errors on threads. It asked participants to read a classified ad full of mistakes, then to (privately) evaluate the writer in terms of intelligence etc. In other words, replying to a thread just to point out a mistake is an active choice, when it would be so much easier to not do so and just keep quiet - whereas in the study you are asked a direct question and need to answer it one way or another. So while I wouldn't go out of my way to mention an error on a thread ( but might on a lighthearted thread if it's obviously an autocorrect and won't humiliate the OP), in the study I would be honest in privately evaluating the writer's level of education and background. There's a huge difference between the two.

Babdoc · 19/08/2018 08:52

I’m autistic and poor grammar (or spelling) sets my teeth on edge. It’s just wrong. Why would I not correct it? The unfortunate people will never learn if you don’t tell them their mistake, and will continue to be embarrassed by their poor grasp of literacy. It undermines their arguments by making them look uneducated.
If everyone helped to correct them, their literacy would soon improve.
Surely they would be grateful for some help with their writing, rather than wishing to remain ignorant?

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 19/08/2018 08:52

Sorry but it goes against inclusion to "educate" and "point out" and "correct"

Grammar might be important, but so os people's right to be the same and equal,

Dyslexia
Learning disablities
English as a second language
Poor quality education
Abusive or disrubtive childhoods

If you're happy making feel bad over these things then yes you are an idiot

Aren't you lucky to not be able to understand what an abstract thing such as language is, not have a disablity, have lived in an english speaking home with supportive parents in an area where the standard of education was good give yourselves a medal. Not everyone is so lucky

CircleofWillis · 19/08/2018 08:52

@Metoodear
Did something specific happen recently? Perhaps a thread titled something along the lines of ‘Am I being unreasonable to want to show this article to the person at work who continuously corrects my grammar in front of other people’, would have been better.

Littlebluebird123 · 19/08/2018 08:53

When a child is learning to talk, it's important to correct their speech.
Ie repeat the incorrectly pronounced word or phrase so that they are able to hear it correctly pronounced and either repeat or internalise it so that they are able to learn.

If a person is never corrected, they will never know the correct form.

People shouldn't see correction as a negative but a learning opportunity. I know they don't, but I believe that's reflective of the current social norm of only encouraging and making people believe that they are perfect as they are. The snowflake generation.
No-one is perfect.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 19/08/2018 08:53

That's a pretty poor article - there's no correlation between confidence and introversion.

I like to correct grammar and spelling when the poster is a twat.

Otherwise, I don't care about obvious typos, we all makes those Wink I do care when people can't construct a halfway decent sentence because it's really hard to read. Some people seem to think a barely coherent stream of consciousness is fine. I disagree

TheOxymoron · 19/08/2018 08:54

This...

Well we all knew this about people who correct grammer on line
Idontbelieveinthemoon · 19/08/2018 08:56

I think a great deal of this depends on context. I correct my DCs at times when it's required. DS2 is 7, so doesn't have any real 'baby' words any longer but occasionally muddles things and has always needed help with 'hers' and 'she's'. I correct that because listening to him say "she's got she's shoes on" makes me itch. Likewise when DS1 shows me homework I'll suggest re-reading and ensuring he's checked his spag.

In a conversation or a distressing post on here of course you wouldn't correct the OP. However it's not always about ego. For some people grammar is an important part of language.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 19/08/2018 08:56

I’m autistic and poor grammar (or spelling) sets my teeth on edge. It’s just wrong.

I'm autistic, and bullying sets my teeth on edge it is WRONG.

in fact autism may well be the reason that people are unable to spell or use grammar correctly. As they may not have been ablevto access the education system, beong stuck in a classroom of thirty kids is hardly the place for some one with sensory issues.

How very sad you seem to think its ok to bully people that have the same condition as YOU

CircleofWillis · 19/08/2018 08:58

Capital letters won’t help that sentence when spoken 😂

CircleofWillis · 19/08/2018 09:01

Oops my last message was for @TheOxymoron

WizardOfToss · 19/08/2018 09:07

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Clairetree1 · 19/08/2018 09:07

I'm severely dyslexic and posters on MN frequently feel the need to comment on my mistakes or correct them, or try and make themselves look clever by mocking me

It doesn't bother me at all. I recognise that some people need to feel they have power and superiority, and sometimes they can only get that by finding tiny little things they can crow over, because they are inadequate with big or important things.

I never bother to respond, but I do make a note in my head of that particular poster's behaviour, because it is worth keeping in mind that any other contributions they make are also less likely to have any true validity.

Metoodear · 19/08/2018 09:08

Littlebluebird123

When a child is learning to talk, it's important to correct their speech. i am not your child or a child and have not asked for your help if you want to correct children and save them from themselves please enroll in uni and become a teacher

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Foxyloxy1plus1 · 19/08/2018 09:09

Some people have difficulty in understanding/using correct grammar, spelling and sentence construction. Some have difficulty reading and therefore choose not to, unless it’s necessary for information.

There’s a difference between that though and the ‘stream of consciousness’ writing, which is so difficult to understand, because there is nothing in it to suggest pauses or intonation, as there would be if it was spoken.

Why is it deemed to be OK to not bother about SPaG, but being poor at maths is frowned upon and criticised? After all, making a mathematical mistake could have very negative implications.

I understand that some people find things easy and some difficult. If you find things difficult, do you welcome help to improve, or do you feel that it’s acceptable to continue to be inaccurate and difficult to understand?

Jammydodger81 · 19/08/2018 09:11

Letting people know they have made an error is not bullying Naught.

I agree that correcting a distressed poster who has made an error is shitty.

Correcting a poster who has posted something slagging off other people which is so badly written to be almost incomprehensible is a different matter altogether. Especially if that poster is someone who loves to come onto others’ threads and be a dick.

Metoodear · 19/08/2018 09:11

And then once they have been called out on their dickish behaviour they try to wrap it up in concern for my children

Lest they end up working in Tesco theirs nothing wrong with working in Tesco however academically my kids are doing fine thanks

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Metoodear · 19/08/2018 09:12

Jammydodger81

Letting people know they have made an error is not bullying Naught.

I agree that correcting a distressed poster who has made an error is shitty.

Correcting a poster who has posted something slagging off other people which is so badly written to be almost incomprehensible is a different matter altogether. Especially if that poster is someone who loves to come onto others’ threads and be a dick.
so their we have it it’s not about spelling at all it’s about putting people in their place who you perceived to have behaved badly

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ItsAlwaysChristmas · 19/08/2018 09:12

I work with vulnerable people, many with literacy issues (in fact there is a large percentage of people who only meet functional literacy standards).

It is not helpful to correct people without being asked to, and having the skills to do so in an empowering, supportive way. It’s mean.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 19/08/2018 09:13

I’m in two minds. Yes we need to have a standard of rules so we can understand each other but I do hate the way that some MNers look down on others for points of grammar, especially if they’re not obvious.

Also there are so many quirky aspects of English that the error is sometimes more logical than the correction and it’s really interesting to discuss them without looking down on anyone.

Take “you was”. I know lots of people who say this and I like it because it’s far more logical. I mean why not? You have “I was, She was, He was” (all singular) and “We were, You were, They were” (all plural). So singular You should logically take “was”.

Although it would be much better altogether if we re-introduced “thou” and “one” and save so much confusion.

MysteriousQuinn · 19/08/2018 09:14

Can't stand SPAG police. Almost always unnecessary and people just do it to make themselves feel superior. Fine to check on spelling or grammar if something doesn't make sense and you need a bit of clarification to understand the sentence. But to just pick on a mistake for no reason is nasty bullying IMO.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 19/08/2018 09:15

Actually the thing I find way more annoying than bad grammar is a long post with no paragraphs.

Makes it so hard to read. Amirite?

Singlenotsingle · 19/08/2018 09:16

applesauce that's alright. We all make mistakes. Not me obviously! Grin