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"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/08/2018 00:12

Title based on what a college professor used to tell us when the going got tough.

"Just remember when you're standing shoulder deep in horse shit, there's a pony in there somewhere. So just keep digging".

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cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 22:14

A CNN Money piece,

impeachment and the market

lionheart · 23/08/2018 22:22

This is new I think.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/23/russian-trolls-spread-vaccine-misinformation-on-twitter?CMP=twt_gu

'Bots and Russian trolls spread misinformation about vaccines on Twitter to sow division and distribute malicious content before and during the American presidential election, according to a new study.

Scientists at George Washington University, in Washington DC, made the discovery while trying to improve social media communications for public health workers, researchers said. Instead, they found trolls and bots skewing online debate and upending consensus about vaccine safety.'

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 22:34

I'll say he 'can't sleep easy'. Smile

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 22:54

Ouch.

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 23:04

I suspect that Giuliani has now lost his post 9/11 'hero' status with Joe Public. He's become inexorably associated with 45 - and if he goes down, so shall Rudy.

PerkingFaintly · 23/08/2018 23:08

Dark Money Group Leading Kavanaugh Confirmation Not Authorized To Operate In D.C.
maplight.org/story/dark-money-group-leading-kavanaugh-confirmation-not-authorized-to-operate-in-d-c/

The secretive dark money organization leading the campaign to confirm President Donald Trump’s latest Supreme Court pick hasn’t been authorized to operate in Washington, D.C., for much of the past year.

The Judicial Crisis Network (JCN), which says it has spent $4.5 million promoting Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the nation’s highest court, had its local business registration and certificate revoked last September for failing to file its biennial report and paying all required fees.
[...]
Last month, JCN’s chief counsel Carrie Severino refused to name who is bankrolling its efforts to confirm Kavanaugh. “I feel like I have a duty to my donors to give them confidentiality,” she said.

lionheart · 23/08/2018 23:11

They both seem really quite unhinged.

It makes my head boggle to think about how a conversation between them would go.

lionheart · 23/08/2018 23:18

This is also mind-boggling. Ronan Farrow on Black Cube and all ...

www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-conspiracy-memo-aimed-at-obama-aides-that-circulated-in-the-trump-white-house

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 23:28

Gosh.

lionheart · 23/08/2018 23:36

A gift to script-writers and directors in the years to come.

It is hard to make secret computer files and USB widgets visually compelling. Smile

lionheart · 23/08/2018 23:40

Renato Mariotti

Verified account

@renato_mariotti

1/ Giuliani revealed that Trump asked his lawyers for advice about how to pardon Manafort, and it has an obvious purpose: to signal to Manafort and other potential cooperators to "refuse to break," to use Trump's words. The message: don't flip.

2/ Giuliani couldn't reveal confidential attorney-client communications without Trump's permission, which suggests this release is strategic. Since Manafort was convicted, he's under pressure to strike a deal with Mueller rather than spend a lot of money fighting a second trial.

3/ Trump's fixation on "flipping" after the convictions of Manafort and Cohen suggests he is worried about what one or both men will tell prosecutors. You will hear commentators suggest this talk of pardons is obstruction of justice or witness tampering. In a broad sense, it is.

4/ But I don't think this would ever be charged by a prosecutor as obstruction or witness tampering--there are too many legal hurdles to doing so, even if Trump can be indicted while in office. What Mueller will use this for is as additional evidence of Trump's intent.

5/ If Trump had nothing to hide, why is he so fixated on flipping now that Manafort and Cohen are convicted? If Trump had nothing to hide, why dangle out a pardon to Manafort while he has an incentive to flip? Why publicly praise a convicted fraudster for "refusing to break"?

6/ Evidence that Trump has something to hide is relevant because it provides a motive for Trump to obstruct justice. It explains why he has gone to great lengths to undermine and impede the Russia investigation. /end

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 23:42

True. Never occurred to me before. Smile

lionheart · 23/08/2018 23:43

www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-national-enquirer-allies-defect-david-pecker-michael-cohen

'David Pecker and Dylan Howard corroborated Michael Cohen’s account implicating the president in a federal crime. And Cohen’s lawyer, Lanny Davis, says there are more revelations to come.'

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 23:43

Sorry. Responding to previous post. Smile

cozietoesie · 23/08/2018 23:46

Cohen has his own lawyer? Now there's a wall I would really like to be a fly on. Smile

lionheart · 23/08/2018 23:51
Smile

Just saw this -- so someone else is considering the dramatic potential of all this swampiness.

Dan Rather

Verified account

@DanRather
49m49 minutes ago

'I nominate Martin Scorsese to direct the Donald Trump biopic. His body of work - Goodfellas, Gangs of New York, etc - suggests he has done a great job bringing similar characters to life on film.'

AcrossthePond55 · 24/08/2018 00:02

Heh heh, his name is 'Pecker'. Heh heh. I'll bet Scrotus is calling him by his last name all over the place Grin.

Sorry for the juvenile humour. Can't help it, I'm in a good mood today.

Pecker.....snigger.

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lionheart · 24/08/2018 00:07

The only reason I can rise above it, so to speak, is that 'pecker' is not often used in English slang ... the same with Mr. Weiner. Smile

Enjoy this moment. Grin

lionheart · 24/08/2018 00:16

This parody made me laugh though. Smile

Donald J. Trump
‏*@RealDonaldTrFan*
12h12 hours ago

Secret Service just burst into MY BEDROOM! THEY KEEP SAYING CALM DOWN SIR! STOP YELLING SIR! STOP THROWING THINGS! PUT SOME CLOTHES ON SIR! DONT TWEET THIS SIR! THEY CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO! THEY are colluding!NOT ME! NOW THEREGRABBINHG MY PHON