To think this shouldn't be allowed?

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Bloke in town with a microphone, yelling about how Jesus is the only way to heaven. Gays are sinners, other religions are sinners, we must repent blah blah blah.

Bad enough, but then he starts making eye contact with the only hijab wearing woman around and loudly proclaims that Only Christians Can Go To Heaven And All Other Religions Lead To Eternal Damnation - presumably as she's an easy target.

AIBU to think that's not right and that he shouldn't be allowed to wander around town yelling shit like that?

Plus, he didn't have a thing to say about homosexuality. That gives me the impression he didn't think it was something worth getting angry about.

He had a lot to say about the rich. None of it good, as I recall.

Some similar-sounding preachers were arrested and convicted in Bristol (not sure exactly what they had been saying but I think it involved saying nasty stuff about Muslims and/or gay people) but their convictions were later overturned:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-40448925

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/street-preachers-win-appeal-against-151014

So I guess on balance that means that it is not illegal to say that sort of stuff, but can come very close to the line? If a preacher was clearly directing anti-muslim abuse at a specific, obviously Muslim person, then that might be different.

I always think if I started shouting at people about my magical invisible friend Bob then I'd be carted off to a psychiatric unit.

Why the F is it any different when religion is involved? Show me this god dude and you can have your megaphone ramblings in the street. Until then, F off and shut up!

I don’t really understand free speech in the U.K. but am very familiar with our 1st Amendment here in the U.S.

In the U.K is a person allowed to express their opinions?

Example; could a person state that they were against immigration into the UK and they didn’t like foreigners?

His idea of heaven sounds like a lonely and boring place, so quite frankly if that's what it's going to be like, I'll give it a miss. 😈

You are allowed to express opinions, but there are laws against inciting religious or racial hatred, which is why it can sometimes be a fine line for interpretation by the courts.

charolais - for example: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-44467055

Sounds like hate speech in all honesty. I would have reported.

I was approached in the city centre when I was about 13/14 and with my friends shopping by some Jehovah’s witnesses. They attempted to get us to join a ‘party’ they were holding that night (so basically an indoctrination get together for young vulnerable people). I’m a staunch Atheist and have been raised as such so I launched into a strong debate with them that they definitely weren’t expecting. Their only argument was to inform me they ‘felt sorry for me’ because I was ‘definitely going to Hell’. I just laughed it off. It’s lucky I had such strength of mind, many young people wouldn’t and it scares me they were approaching young people in such a manner.

Ah the religious-the place where the bigots and the mentally deranged can safely hide amongst.If there is indeed a God these crazy zealots will surely never get to meet him,especially those cunt parents who let their baby die in agony due to their mad beliefs.Scum of the earth!

I was approached in the city centre when I was about 13/14 and with my friends shopping by some Jehovah’s witnesses.

When I lived in London, I had a friend who was a lapsed very hardcore Catholic. Think being able to recite the entire bible. His trick was to engage in debate, determine how little his "opponent" knew, and then just rip them to shreds. It was particularly funny on the underground (where the MO is to trap you between stations). One of the best was him berating some poor Mormon for not knowing about "the book of Mickey".

I've never had the guts (nor the time) to try it myself. Because very few of them will know much. I mean if I said that Isiah 12:2-4 said that only green vegetables should make up the Table of The Lord, who would know enough to argue ?

Or Proverbs 15:22 - The council are wise, so heed their advice - very useful in neighbour disputes, by the way ....

Can we PLEASE get back to JW and -goatplay- foreplay??

Vile behaviour. I am a follower of Jesus - and go to Church about once a month, and I don't subscribe to this 'being gay is a sin' shit. I know there is something in the bible that says 'man shall not lie with man blah blah,' but it's 2018 FGS, and it's time that we stopped taking everything that is in the bible, so seriously. Yes of course I believe in some bible stories and that many people from it existed, but I think it's only fair to admit that the Bible is probably at least in part fictional.

Actually several of my best buddies are gay (male and female.) A few people at the Church look down their nose at me because I am pals with the 'gays' but I would rather be pals with them than some of the bigoted arseholes at Church. The reason some are so horrible is the reason I only go once a month or so. Not everyone is like that (I mean I'm not!) but yeah there are a few arseholes!

I don't subscribe to this 'being gay is a sin' shit. I know there is something in the bible that says 'man shall not lie with man blah blah,'

My (very limited understanding, as an atheist) is that comes from Leviticus in the old testament. However the whole point of Jesus was to announce a new covenant with the Lord, which basically repealed the Old Testament. Certainly the guff that was already ancient history in Jesus time.

Religion is very much like modern technical standards. There's so much of it, you'll always be able to find something that supports what you agree with. And if you can't, just start a new one.

The Islamic and Christian preachers in the city centre are always shouting with megaphones! me and dds take much pleasure in standing in front of their tables and blocking their view. Dds usually in crop tops. grin we then enjoy cocktails while in their full view. wink

Ah, love it.

Report it. Or condone it. You're choice, I suppose.

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Actually several of my best buddies are gay (male and female.) A few people at the Church look down their nose at me because I am pals with the 'gays' but I would rather be pals with them than some of the bigoted arseholes at Church.

Why not befriend some sex workers and see what they say about that ....

Mosrdays "There was a lot of huffing and offence taken 10 or so years ago when the "there's probably no god, stop worrying and enjoy your life" bus adverts were up."

You possibly have a point there, but I think what fuss there was concerned the presumption that religious people worried and didn't enjoy life. Surely you can be less worried if you believe there's another, better life to come.

They attempted to get us to join a ‘party’ they were holding that night (so basically an indoctrination get together for young vulnerable people)

Ah yes, those kind of parties. Years ago it was the Moonies who pulled that stunt, but now it's the JWs you say ...?

And sorry Omzlas but I don't know anything about the goatforeplay either

MAYBE I WILL befriend a few sex workers DG!

The only unreasonable bit is the pretend outrage of posting here and not making a complaint via 101 - it can't have upset you that much?

Of course, MN is FoE so feel free to be outraged, and all that

Next time I see him - I'd never seen him before - I'll be calling. I posted after I got home as I was half expecting to be told "don't be ridiculous, leave him be"

I do detest people crying 'hate speech, ban it'. Free speech is the right to say things that others disagree with. This preacher sounds a real bell end, but I defend his right to be a bell end. By the way, Jesus didn't abolish the old covenant rules or you have no creation myth or reason for his so called sacrifice.

Criminal damage. Nice.

How the hell is unplugging something 'criminal damage'? Get a grip.

no foreplay

I would also like to know more about this.

How the hell is unplugging something 'criminal damage'? Get a grip

Did you read the cite provided ? Clearly not.

You do realise that nearly all muslims believe in hell and that all non-muslims are going there? Have you read the Koran? It's descriptions of hell are pretty graphic and disturbing, and continual throughout the whole book. You will be beaten with red hot iron, you will have nothing to drink but scalding water and nothing to eat but shit. You will cry for mercy but there will be no mercy.

If that bloke you saw isn't inciting violence then of course he should be allowed to say what he believes. For goodness sake, why is it 'horrible' that you live in a place where we don't try to control people's thoughts and expression? Silencing people's opinions you dislike may seem great until you find your opinions are the one's people don't like and you are being silenced.