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AIBU Why do English people curtsy to the royal family?

292 replies

PineapplePower · 10/08/2018 14:15

I need to stop reading the Daily Mail, but there was an article there about how “low” you should curtsy to your betters.

...there was a photo of Theresa May curtsying to Prince William, of all people. I found it absolutely repulsive.

Think what you will of her, but should she be bowing and scraping in front of a 30-something dude that hasn’t done much with his life? She’s the PM fer chrissakes!!!

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sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 04:03

Hadenough And my country voted No to independence you seem to not want to accept that result and realise that we are all the UK

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:12

@sweetsomethings -- Yes, voted no when Scotland was told its best chances of staying in the EU were to vote remain.

Scotland will have our day and small minded people like you will have to deal with it.

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:15

Luckily the trends show young people are firmly in support of independence, so it's not if, but when.

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 04:20

Hadenough well as a young person currently living in Scotland (unlike yourself) I can’t see any new support for it. Small minded because I didn’t vote the same way as you. I think it is you who is small minded. Maybe when you live in Scotland come back to me with all the my scotland crap

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 04:22

Again don’t assume everyone voted no because of the EU .

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:28

@sweetsomethings -- You're in a small minority in Scotland if you voted for Brexit.
The facts are clear, and if you look at the demographics from 2014, independence is an inevitability.
Yes, it doesn't concern me so much, I have multiple citizenships, but I'll always care about my country, and it'll give me no pleasure to see it deal with the ramifications of a decision it rejected.
But you'll probably be delighted, because, hey, it'll take 50 years to see if it paid off (Jacob Rees Mogg).

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 04:36

38% isn’t that small and I didn’t vote brexit. But I will accept the result as the majority of my countrymen voted for it. That is kinda how it works no? I think the only one sounded delighted that Scotland may face hardship over the next 50 years as you keep saying is you. You want England to fail and last time I checked England is part of Great Britain like Scotland is. But hey you won’t care what happens to Scotland as you will be living it up in Europe as you stated.

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:40

@sweetsomethings A majority of your country didn't vote for it. Scotland said no. Scotland will always say no, but their voice has been ignored.

Yes, until Scotland gains independence (which as the demographics clearly show, it naturally will), I will certainly stay here in Europe.

I'm not a racist, nor a bigot, and I won't be viewed as such as England is right now.

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 04:47

Hadenough I am as much british as I am Scottish. So yes my countrymen voted for it . with the amount of MPs the SNP lost at the last election it’s clear to see that momentum for them isn’t growing . Until the SNP are replaced with a party who I would trust to take us forward with independence I can’t see that changing . No matter how much yes voters threaten and try to intimate me . I think the SNP need to concentrate on the state of child poverty in this country and the fact classroom sizes are on the increase with 33kids in my children’s class. Instead of harping on about Independence .

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 04:49

And yes Scotland said no and you state that their voice was ignored . They also said no to independence but it’s ok to ignore that as it wasn’t the result you wanted .

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:52

@sweetsomethings Urm, the SNP holds the vast majority of Westminster seats in Scotland, despite historically performing poorly in this area.

The Independence Referendum took place before the Brexit mess. The major promise of 'Better Together' was voting to remain would secure Scotland's place in the EU. Sadly I believed it, tell me again how that has worked out?

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:55

Also, please do tell me how child poverty rates in Scotland (and the rest of the UK) will be resolved when the economy shrinks and there is less money for public services?

hadenough · 12/08/2018 04:59

And your 'countrymen'... yes go to Glasgow and talk that line.

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 05:06

You are speaking like independence wouldn’t have had a negative effect on Scotland . When it was projected that things would have been rough In scotland for a long long time that argument is void. We all know when we voted that a vote was coming and what could happen yet we decided to face the future with the UK and as the SNP stated it was our once in a lifetime. If you think losing 22seats in the general election is an achievement then yes the SNP don’t fantastic. Done a fantastic job at winning the conservatives seats that is.

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hadenough · 12/08/2018 05:15

@sweetsomethings Absolutely not. Scotland has a GDP the size of Portugal but half the population. Of course it could decide its own destiny. It's a shame you clearly have such a low belief in your own people.

But hey, enjoy Brexit, and enjoy what it'll do to our own country. I'd rather Nicola Sturgeon than Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees mogg any day of the week.

Be happy with your 'countrymen' but you know as well as me, the tide is changing and the demographics will result in our country being independent.

hadenough · 12/08/2018 05:18

Urm @sweetsomethings absolutely not. I'm saying the majority would disagree with you. Glasgow is a 'Yes' City. Unlike the Brexiteers, I believe in tolerance, equality and acceptance. I live in the EU and people here accept me, my non EU husband, and we live a nice life. Don't lower our debate to threats of violence. It's beneath you.

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 05:20

We shall see hadenough has been fun debating with you tho . Goodnight

hadenough · 12/08/2018 05:28

@sweetsomethings - You too! It's how democracy works. But please, I'd never ever advocate violence towards anyone, even if I completely disagree, and whatever our differences, such an approach would never resolve anything (rightly so).

sweetsomethings · 12/08/2018 05:32

Oh I never thought you were advocating violence I just read between the lines and jumped the gun straight to that .

Greenyogagirl · 12/08/2018 14:03

i believe in tolerance, equality and acceptance. except for anybody who doesn’t agree with you. Hmm

Ta1kinpeace · 12/08/2018 19:04

LMAOROTFPMPL
When you own something you have possession of it & in terms of land, you only possess it by acquiring the right to. You no longer have the right to possession once you're dead & if nobody can be found who has a legal claim, then the Queen/Monarch/State has the right to possession.
No shit Sherlock,
under intestacy rules, land reverts to the state
same as in the USA, France, Russia and numerous other countries do not have a monarch.

The Queen does not have fallback ownership of land The state does
AND
As in cases I've actually handled,
as soon as a better claim is proven, that right defalts

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing !

BananaToffo · 12/08/2018 21:10

No idea what your childish acronymn stands for. Grow up.

The State is the Crown embodied by the Queen.

And the USA, France & Russia are not Monarchies, are they? Hmm

So does the Queen ultimately "own" all the land in the UK? If own means right to possession (which it does), and the State has the ultimate right to possession - and the State is embodied by the Queen, then yes.

"In cases I've actually handled". Sure, dear. Sure.

Answer this if you must, but I find you such an annoying prat that I can't be arsed to come back and read your infantile drivel. Just so you know.

Ta1kinpeace · 12/08/2018 21:16

banana
Shocking as it might seem, my day job involves unregistered land so I know the rules very well
and I know that Buck house do not magically own stuff if there is no better claim

Due to Magna Carta, the chances of any piece of land reverting to the crown are utterly minimal

if you do not know what the letters mean, that just shows how young you are.
ah well