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To remind you, especially in the holidays, about b******* ticks?!

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BstrdTicks · 09/08/2018 14:05

We're on holiday in North Yorkshire with the DCs. On a family walk in a rural coastal area, one DC, a mid-teen, was a little way ahead. As the rest of us rounded a corner on the path, we spotted them coming through some long grass and wildflowers and rejoining the path. Needless to say they'd been for a wee behind a gorse bush!

After walking on a little while, I suddenly remembered about ticks, and we all stopped to check the DC over and brush them down. At this point, there was no sign of any ticks. We did the same on returning to the car, and again on returning to the holiday cottage. Still no sign of any ticks.

It wasn't until bedtime that the DC found 3 of the little b* attached!!!

Out in the middle of nowhere at night, we had to get them off with ordinary tweezers, which isn't ideal. Luckily it seemed to go ok, perhaps because we'd found them reasonably quickly. We washed the area with soap and water, and applied antiseptic. We usually carry a tick removing tool but it had been lost on our last trip and not replaced.

Not all ticks are infected but we now have an anxious wait to see if the DC develops any symptoms which could indicate Lyme Disease, at which point it would mean tests and extensive antibiotics. It can take a few days, a month or even longer to show up. This can sometimes be a target-style rash around the bites, flu-like symptoms of headache, fever, joint pain or fatigue, or specific joint or nerve problems.

We're all kicking ourselves, including the DC, as we know ticks are a risk. We usually avoid going off paths into long undergrowth especially. It's the first time one of us has been 'got', despite living rurally and lots of time spent outdoors. In the scorching weather, we'd got shorts on rather than trousers tucked into boot socks or wellies.

Do educate yourself and your DCs. Pets also need to be checked regularly. Ticks can be hard to spot, often just the size of a poppy seed, until they have engorged themselves. Don't look at images of that if you're squeamish! There's good advice on the NHS, NICE and Lyme Disease Action websites. Tick removing tools are available for less than £5 in camping shops and online, and are easy to carry in a rucksack or bag. There's even a credit card style one for purse or wallet. Fine point tweezers or a piece of cotton can also be used.

Ticks are pretty widespread but especially so in some areas.

Be careful out there.

And all fingers crossed for our DC very welcome!

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Stupomax · 10/08/2018 13:15

I asked my doctor a few years ago if we should have antibiotics straight after a tick bite and he said only if it was likely that the tick had been attached for more than 24 hours. This was based on this info www.cdc.gov/ticks/tickbornediseases/tick-bite-prophylaxis.html (we live in one of the states listed).

He also said if we were bitten by a tick, to look out for fever, rash or other symptoms.

A friend has recently had Lyme Disease confirmed by a blood test - she never developed the rash but had other symptoms.

They do test fairly aggressively here for Lyme eg I took DD in to the doc many years ago just with general exhaustion, and they tested for glandular fever and Lyme - both negative fortunately.

Ugh. It's a nightmare.

Naty1 · 10/08/2018 13:29

Dd got bitten at 2yo.
She got a rash on her back several weeks later (bite had been to wrist). A minor fever as well.
The following year many ear infections and fever and a heart murmur.
I read there is a vaccine but it was discontinued(in testing?)

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 13:29

On mobile only and with intermittent signal, (plus the DCs/holiday), so apologies for not always being on the thread or able to respond in full. I'm by no means an expert, so just trying to do bits of quality research when I get chance. Thanks to all who have added reliable information, including from personal experience. Flowers

I have just discovered that there is currently a petition about Lyme Disease on Change.org, (which also expresses some concerns about the current NICE guidelines), if anyone is interested in signing or reading. It should come up if you google.

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AlexanderHamilton · 10/08/2018 13:32

Update.

our GP can't test for it apparently so he is being referred to infectious diseases.

CluedoAddict · 10/08/2018 13:35

My Dd got one after a picnic in the park. I was doing her hair the next day and I noticed she had a lump at the base of her neck. It was about an inch wide. When I got a torch I could see the tick. I took her to the practice nurse who removed it and prescribed antibiotics.

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 14:03

2 UK petitions apparently on change.org. Interesting and concerning reading.

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BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 14:24

The 2 UK websites I've found most useful so far are Lyme Disease Action, and Lyme Disease UK.

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GoneWishing · 10/08/2018 15:06

There are loads of ticks where my DP lives. They find at least one everyday on the poor dog, and often on themselves, too, despite doing what they can to avoid them. DM had the bulls eye rash earlier this year and had a course of antibiotics, but later continued to feel really unwell, and is now having more treatment for Lyme's Disease, so I guess the first course failed somehow?

I feel paranoid when I visit, although did my share of finding unattached ones on the dog (which my parents kill by burning them over the sink). Yuk yuk yuk!

GoneWishing · 10/08/2018 15:10

Ticks round my DP's are also known to carry tick-borne encephalitis, although it's rare. There's a vaccination for it, luckily, which both DPs have.

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 15:23

Gone, can I ask if your DPs live in the UK - I'm assuming not, with TBE?

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GoneWishing · 10/08/2018 15:45

No, they live in Northern Europe, not too far from Russia, really.

I spent all my childhood summers in the village they live in now, and I don't remember seeing a single tick there all through my childhood (1980s and 1990s). I was vaguely aware that they were things that existed, but it was a very rare occasion when a friend's cat had one. Now they're infested with the buggers!

They're definitely becoming more common everywhere, from what I understand (I stumbled into this: www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2018/jan/25/forget-ebola-sars-and-zika-ticks-are-the-next-global-health-threat !!).

TightropeWalk · 10/08/2018 16:10

2.5 weeks ago I found one on my tummy! Heavily pregnant and almost too tricky to see. I thought it was a small scab. I’d not been anywhere... very strange. But I know it wasn’t there the night before. I panicked as I scrapped it off before I realised what it was. It was not engorged and was easy to remove, I cleaned the area with antiseptic (and wondered how long my imminent death was) I’m still alive so I guess it’s ok. Hate the vile things, but they are really common and very few are infectious. If they prescribed antibiotics for every tick bite it would be ridiculous and it’s not necessary for so many people. I think they say you can have the tick tested to see if it’s a carrier?

GlitterRollerSkate · 10/08/2018 16:23

Not sure if anyone has mentioned to only removed ticks via a tick removal tool or tweezers (Google how.) Do not try to suffocate or kill them with any lotions or potions as it causes them to regurgitate. Envy fucking hate ticks!

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 16:24

Hi Tightrope. It's a good idea to let your doctor and midwife know that you believe you've been bitten by a tick, and get it noted on your medical and pregnancy records. As you say, in all likelihood you'll be fine, but it can take up to 3 months and longer for symptoms to develop, and extra care is needed during pregnancy for mother and baby - there's even a different protocol, as I understand it.

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chaplin1409 · 10/08/2018 16:30

Just looking at the picture of the rashes and I was stung by a wasp last week and developed the bulls eye rash. It was definitely a wasp.

TightropeWalk · 10/08/2018 16:31

@bstrdTicks I gave birth 3 days later, and have been in and out of hospital with a number of issues so had alsorts of blood tests etc. If everyone who got a tick bite called the dr they’d never be able to answer the phone!

TightropeWalk · 10/08/2018 16:32

And it was definitely a tick as I realised after I had removed it...

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 16:37

Hi Glitter, it's in the OP and upthread, but there's absolutely no harm in repeating it. The more people who know you shouldn't pick them off with your fingernail, use alcohol, a match or cigarette, or ordinary eyebrow tweezers, the better. All that can result in the tick being stressed and regurgitating on/into you, infection entering under your nail, or part of the tick being left in. Envy Not envy, obviously! A piece of cotton thread can be used in an emergency if you don't have the fine point tweezers or tick tool.

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GoneWishing · 10/08/2018 16:43

Yes I agree there's no need for panic over them. Just to be aware, take reasonable precautions when in an area with ticks, check yourself, remove them correctly, and look out for any rash or symptoms. Most people who get bitten will be just fine. My DF for example has probably had more tick bites than anyone cares to count, and he's just fine.

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 16:43

Hi again Gone. I'm relieved that you weren't trying to tell me TBE has reached the UK, at least yet!

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GoneWishing · 10/08/2018 16:46

No. And it's super rare even where they are (I'm too lazy to google for statistics, sorry!), but as it's known to happen rarely, and there IS a vaccine, it's obviously good sense to have the vaccine if it's likely you'll be bitten by ticks!

GoneWishing · 10/08/2018 16:47

it's obviously good sense to have the vaccine if it's likely you'll be bitten by ticks!

In those areas where TBE is known, is what I meant! Not just bitten by any tick anywhere.

TightropeWalk · 10/08/2018 16:54

The most important message is to check you body all over (and your children) even if you’ve only been in your garden in the city (thanks bastard tick) and if you find one remove it. This way it’s only likely to have been there a short while. Then be vigilant for signs of infection.

JamPasty · 10/08/2018 17:49

NICE guidelines on Lyme - may be useful if you need to see your GP and aren't sure they're up to date with Lyne diagnosis and treatment

www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng95/chapter/recommendations

captainpantbeard · 10/08/2018 18:03

Ooh thank you. That reminded me I meant to get a tick remover for our upcoming holiday in the countryside.