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To remind you, especially in the holidays, about b******* ticks?!

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BstrdTicks · 09/08/2018 14:05

We're on holiday in North Yorkshire with the DCs. On a family walk in a rural coastal area, one DC, a mid-teen, was a little way ahead. As the rest of us rounded a corner on the path, we spotted them coming through some long grass and wildflowers and rejoining the path. Needless to say they'd been for a wee behind a gorse bush!

After walking on a little while, I suddenly remembered about ticks, and we all stopped to check the DC over and brush them down. At this point, there was no sign of any ticks. We did the same on returning to the car, and again on returning to the holiday cottage. Still no sign of any ticks.

It wasn't until bedtime that the DC found 3 of the little b* attached!!!

Out in the middle of nowhere at night, we had to get them off with ordinary tweezers, which isn't ideal. Luckily it seemed to go ok, perhaps because we'd found them reasonably quickly. We washed the area with soap and water, and applied antiseptic. We usually carry a tick removing tool but it had been lost on our last trip and not replaced.

Not all ticks are infected but we now have an anxious wait to see if the DC develops any symptoms which could indicate Lyme Disease, at which point it would mean tests and extensive antibiotics. It can take a few days, a month or even longer to show up. This can sometimes be a target-style rash around the bites, flu-like symptoms of headache, fever, joint pain or fatigue, or specific joint or nerve problems.

We're all kicking ourselves, including the DC, as we know ticks are a risk. We usually avoid going off paths into long undergrowth especially. It's the first time one of us has been 'got', despite living rurally and lots of time spent outdoors. In the scorching weather, we'd got shorts on rather than trousers tucked into boot socks or wellies.

Do educate yourself and your DCs. Pets also need to be checked regularly. Ticks can be hard to spot, often just the size of a poppy seed, until they have engorged themselves. Don't look at images of that if you're squeamish! There's good advice on the NHS, NICE and Lyme Disease Action websites. Tick removing tools are available for less than £5 in camping shops and online, and are easy to carry in a rucksack or bag. There's even a credit card style one for purse or wallet. Fine point tweezers or a piece of cotton can also be used.

Ticks are pretty widespread but especially so in some areas.

Be careful out there.

And all fingers crossed for our DC very welcome!

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2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 09/08/2018 20:15

There are 2 tests done in the U.K. . The first is cheaper but can give a false positive . The second is more expensive and bloods are sent to Southampton I think . Problem is that one can be inconclusive if done in the early stages but to do it later risks debilitating symptoms .

Stupomax · 09/08/2018 20:19

We live in New England so it's been a problem here for a long time. We check ourselves all over every night before we go to bed. All of us have had lots of tick bits - usually at least one a year each. Our theory is that if we check ourselves every night then they won't have a chance to stay attached for 24 hours. However I think they're now saying they only need to be attached for 15+ minutes to potentially infect you :-(

My dog has also had Anaplasmosis from a tick bite which was absolutely awful - I thought he was going to die, and he was ill for weeks. We never even saw the tick (he actually gets very few ticks on him).

Justabadwife · 09/08/2018 20:19

Dds had a few. The weirdest one was one on about the same level as her lowest rib. She had been camping for the weekend with her dad.
She had a bath when she got home and I didn't notice anything, but the next morning when she was getting ready for school it was there.🤔
The latest one, her and her friends were running around her friends garden just in their knickers, playing in the paddling pool. When all of a sudden she ran into the house saying 'mum, I've got a tick on my thigh' it was right at the bloody top. I nipped to the neighbours who has a dog and used their tick twister.
Bloody ticks 😡

EddieVeddersfoxymop · 09/08/2018 21:37

Just to add to my post upthread, I did have bloods done but a note was sent back to my gp saying that a rash, even though it was the classic bullseye, was not enough to merit the testing. Apparently the protocol is to give antibiotics anyway. So I have not a clue whether the bloods were positive or not as it was never tested.

BstrdTicks · 09/08/2018 22:28

Bumping for the nighttime crowd.

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AlexanderHamilton · 09/08/2018 22:34

Today dh got the all clear for a suspected mini stroke, neuroma & cancerous deposits in the brain. It’s been a hellish few months. He cannot drive & has been off work since June.

He had a tick bite during May half term. Tomorrow he will ring the GP & ask about a Lyme disease. I had considered it before but no medical professional has yet considered it.

BstrdTicks · 09/08/2018 22:38

Brazzle's point about them being almost like a tiny spider, and Theworld's point about not being able to feel they're on you are both spot on.

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AlexanderHamilton · 09/08/2018 22:41

DH didn’t feel anything, Dd was walking behind him with the dog & she saw it.

butterfly56 · 09/08/2018 22:45

In many other european countries e.g. Netherlands.
Specific antibiotics are given as soon as the tick bites are diagnosed, no waiting for symptoms to develop.
In the UK far too many GPs know nothing about immediate antibiotic treatment which would in the long term save he NHS a fortune and also save tick related illnesses developing over time.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 09/08/2018 22:49

Got this off my cat, was nearly sick 🤢

To remind you, especially in the holidays, about b******* ticks?!
BstrdTicks · 09/08/2018 22:51

Just to add to Greenand's PP about where ticks can attach on the body:

They do move, so check literally everywhere and check again, and get someone else to check for you. On my DC, they were attached near the top of an inner thigh, but they weren't there when we checked 3 times beforehand! I saw one running across the paper towel I'd put it on after removal, and it was moving pretty fast. What a joy it was to kill the gruesome little bugger!!! Angry

Usual places are legs and arms, groin, underarms, scalp and behind the ears.

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ijustneedagoodnightssleep · 09/08/2018 23:17

This thread is terrifying!!! I'm camping in France at the moment and now I'm getting paranoid. Ate they found everywhere or just specific areas?

CaptainBrickbeard · 09/08/2018 23:22

I had never heard of any of this! Now I am terrified!

MissMarplesKnitting · 09/08/2018 23:28

I've had two bites, both in same area (school field trip!)

First time I got the sod off using acetone and pointy tweezers.

Second time I used a tick tool, and that one started going red. I knew it was a tick, straight to GP who gave me the antibiotics just in case it was Lyme.

This was a decade ago, so there's no excuse these days for GPs not to be aware.

Frightening disease.

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 00:20

I think the trick is not to panic Mr Mainwaring, (Captain and Ijustneed), but to have a look at the more reliable websites I mention in my OP, (NHS, NICE and Lyme Disease Action), take the recommended precautions, and the recommended actions if needed.

Also probably best to avoid all the photos and videos of engorged ticks elsewhere online...

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BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 00:36

It sounds like you have all been through a very tough time, Alex, and not over yet. I'd arm yourself with the necessary information before you ring the GP, in case you've got one who will try to fob you off, not take it seriously, or is uninformed. It does seem worth looking into from what you've said. All the best to you, your DH and family Flowers

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Bottleup · 10/08/2018 00:41

Thank you OP - I was completely ignorant about lymes disease before reading this thread - hope you're DC is ok

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 00:49

Thank you Bottle. DC was looking a little flushed at bedtime, but I'm hoping it's just a bit too much sun over the last couple of days and being overtired with all the fresh air and exercise. I'm a bit anxious to see how they are in the morning though, and am feeling a bit sleepless because of it.

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Ansumpasty · 10/08/2018 08:46

Op, being on high alert for any symptoms is going to drive you insane. Your child will go back to school soon and pick up viruses and you won’t be able to differentiate between the beginning of Lyme and a common virus. Even if they then go for tests, they’re completely unreliable in the UK.

Get him 2 weeks of antibiotics and be done with it.

LimboLuna · 10/08/2018 09:00

It amazes me just how small they are not engorged, you would barely notice one. They just look like a spider with a slightly different head.

Horrid creatures. I put one in water (was de-ticking a hedgehog) once thinking it would drown, 2 day’s later it was still swimming.
I was in a woods in a town last week creature hunting with my youngest and we found loads.

Op I hope your ds will be ok, odds are they will be. But I know that offers little encouragement Flowers

NearlySchoolTimeAgain · 10/08/2018 09:13

We’ve just had the vaccinations for TBE. I’d recommend them to anyone who does a lot of walking in areas where the ticks carry this virus. We didn’t have any side effects (and I had a MMR vaccination at the same time).

I’ve got this image of unusual tick bite rashes saved on my phone.

To remind you, especially in the holidays, about b******* ticks?!
BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 10:37

Thanks Nearly.

Just to add that not everyone who gets bitten/attached develops a rash with the infection.

TBE is Encephalitis and my understanding from the NHS website is that ticks do not carry it in the UK, but there is a (low) risk in other parts of Europe, Russia, China and Japan.

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LaDilettante · 10/08/2018 11:41

@BstrdTicks I hope your DCs are ok. It takes a few days for Lyme symptoms to show up but it sounds like you know what to watch out for. It also might be worth showing your kids how to safely remove a tick in case they get bitten and you’re not around. I hope you enjoy your holidays though!

BstrdTicks · 10/08/2018 12:57

Bumping for the lunchtime/afternoon crowd.

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AlexanderHamilton · 10/08/2018 13:05

Dh's symtoms started with niggling tinnitus. Then he developed a tingling down one side. The next day he suffered what we thought ws a mini stroke. His face felt numb down one side, his speech sounded slurry (the back of his tongue felt numb) and when that resolved itself he felt very tired (tired like he'd never known) ,dizziness, confused & forgetful, achy including a headache and neck pain and intermittnet blurry eyesight.

the following week he had another episode of facial numbness and slurring and when I got to hospital he looked awful.

Over the last few weeks he had had recurring tingling in his face, worse tinnitus, distorted speech (women's voices in particular he describes as sounding like the robot metal mickey) lots of dizziness and he often loses his train of thought.

As I said earlier it has been confirmed that this is not caused my a mini stroke or anything else from the brain.